OOF! I can't find even quad layered discs online lol https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bluray+12...f=nb_sb_noss_2 - everything just comes up with 100GB, so for me it is the mythical unicorn.

[OT] is this in addition to usb hard drive or are the DVD's your only backup? I ask because I used to use DVD's all the time for backup but began using usb harddrive when the prices fell. DVD's could serve as a good backup for the backup Will think about that....

Well....However if your hd backup holds TBs of data, DVDs, aren't practical anymore unless you jump to triple layered and quad layered blurays. I still want that 50TB disc ( it was on wikipedia but it was removed) an article about PCD (Protein Covered Disc) which had a capacity of 50TB potentially, but I still wouldn't mind that hyper-CDROM disc with its capacity .

Apparently after looking at M-DISC on Wikipedia,
I do also have about 10TB of USB platter drives that I use for "intermediate" backup. I tend to back up the more important stuff right away to disc because of past experience with HDD's. All drives will fail, it's only a matter of time. But discs when properly stored can last quite a long time.

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Geez guy! I didn't create the basket. The marketplace did which hasn't sold CD devices in years. Last month I bought a DVD player/recorder from Best Buy, the only model they handle and they had to order it in. BluRay has some life in it but CDs are dead and buried and flowers won't even grow on the grave. FWIW I still have maybe 200 CD blanks which I still do sometimes use so again I didn't create it but I surely do recognize it.

thats my idea for Slackware's future, make ISO #1 the core of Slackware, /a /ap /d /l /n /x /xap (just enough to make installing Slackware possible and get online with a basic WM & apps) then if a user wants to pile more stuff on be it KDE-4/5 Mate, Trinity, XFCE, tcl/tk then they can either download only want they want or they can grab ISO #2 with all the rest that can be put on it

this is just my opinion, others might think i am crazy, or stupid, but considering all the other distros, slackware needs to make its own path, so i looked towards other distros with similar methods,

antiX has a netinstall, a core, a base, and full ISOs, similar to that i would make it even more simple, (but not too simple) make ISO #1 the core that gives you a fresh clean basic Slackware install, then #2 ISO for all the rest, or spread the rest out over two more ISOs if necessary

Okie, that's the thing though, Slackware forged its own path 26 years ago and has maintained it. It's the other distros that changed/moved away etc... Not all will appreciate simplicity and that's fine. As long as PV has enough users willing to donate and support the distro then Slackware will continue to move forward as it has before.

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So what you're saying is that Slackware needs to make it's own path by following other distros?
Slackware IMO is perfect as it is.

slackware is fine, but i do look at other distros to see what they are doing, most i dont even consider, i was a debian fan before systemd fucked it all up, then antix and devuan seemed to fill the need for a non-systemd debian fork,

to ignore what all the other distros and developers are doing would not be a good idea, and thats the idea that comes to mind for me, a core ISO with all the basics and an extra ISO with all the extras and eye candy

Yet if you look at all those other distros, they have a small (some large) army of people that maintain them whereas Slackware has our BDFL, a handful of close people and the rest of us here to find and report bugs/updates/etc.

Do you realize how much of a load that making a ISO for everyone's personal needs would place on PV? Not to mention hosting them. Then updating them constantly?

The old principal comes to mind, K.I.S.S.

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i NEVER said that, i mentioned making a core ISO with a basic OS including x, then ISO #2 with everythingt else including eye candy & source, i am out of here, too many idiots can not follow the conversation and claiming people said things they did not say

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Odd you can never find the shift key for "I".

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Typewriter fingerprint?
https://www.dummies.com/education/sc...-photocopiers/

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One could always make their own set like you want via AlienBob's mirror-slackware-current.sh script;

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The same was said about the floppy disk. They outlived the "expert analysis", the needs of the "market", etc by well over a decade... they just refused to go away.

So called "planned obsolescence", or whatever you want to call it, is often powered by simply telling consumers something is "dead" and have them repeat that endlessly on "social media", etc.

(Incidentally, the company I worked for still had to use 3 1/2" floppy disks back as recently as 2010...)

As an example, RS232 is another technology presumed dead, but still very much alive in certain industries - i.e. you won't be seeing a 9 pin D shell connector on your fancy new phone any time soon (what a pity...).

The decisions to stop providing RS232 ports on mainstream x86 PC and laptop mainboards has been met by a surge in USB based RS232 devices to fill that requirement. Similarly USB optical drives have surged in availability to meet the absence of the devices on new PCs, especially laptops.

Still commits going on with regards to USB to serial interface drivers even in Linux: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tr...ers/usb/serial

(someone wants it)

The fact that optical media no longer applies to consumer audio/video, doesn't make it dead (yet). It means that it no longer plays a role in serving that portion of "the market".

There were similar claims several years ago such as "the desktop PC is dead" - based of course in the surge of people who came "onboard" during the "internet revolution" going "offboard" again and onto mobile devices.

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