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Old 10-26-2021, 07:49 AM   #16
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I completely understand and I support your choice to remove KDE. However, the "bloat" as you refer to does not impact system performance in any way, that is, the packages sitting there just take up some space and unless you have an ancient HD a few extra MB won't matter. The KDE packages won't slow down your system. The KDE packages bring more functionality to your XFCE desktop. Konqueror is also an FTP client. There's Ktorrent, an excellent bittorrent client. And I love the KDE games.
This is just my opinion. The wonderful thing about Slackware is we can customize our systems our way.
There is one danger for new users to Slackware. That is, if you start randomly removing packages you can break your system. So remove packages if you know what you're doing. I'm not implying that you're a novice user.
It's only that looking for something becomes a mission. There is just too much stuff in (for example) the Internet menu folder. I don't like sifting through stuff I neither need nor want to get at the things I do: It doesn't suit my workflow. YYMV.
 
Old 10-26-2021, 08:38 AM   #17
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It's only that looking for something becomes a mission. There is just too much stuff in (for example) the Internet menu folder. I don't like sifting through stuff I neither need nor want to get at the things I do: It doesn't suit my workflow. YYMV.
You could try this script: https://github.com/DidierSpaier/slin.../hide-kde-apps and to revert its effect: https://github.com/DidierSpaier/slin.../show-kde-apps

Juts put them in /usr/sbin for instance and make them executable.
 
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Old 10-26-2021, 10:52 AM   #18
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Just install wbar. It is nice applet which allows to put on it your preferred application. I really like as you can make it completely invisible. Just hovering mouse over shows icons but you can set it the there will be no background. And icons are animated. I tried to edit Xfce menu but it is really painful. In my configuration laptop plus external monitor usually wbar is configured as deskbar on right edge of monitor.
 
Old 10-27-2021, 05:00 PM   #19
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Systemic Configuration:
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su -
rm /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
ln -s /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.xfce /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
exit
startx
However, a systemic configuration could be overriden by a local configuration, i.e. ~/.xinitrc (check and make sure your regular user doesn't have some hidden local x11 configuration pointing to kde).

How kde starts up if it is removed is baffling, so clearly it wasn't removed... but as others said, it doesn't need to be removed to run xfce. Was kde ever installed from source or in a non-slackish way, like from an rpm2tgz from some other distro, etc.? Installing packages without slackpkg or pkgtools can create rogue packages that slackpkg / removepkg wouldn't find or be able to manage. Even if there was rougue kde somewhere, xfce should still run fine when xinitrc is linked to it.

Perhaps checking that xfce is sound, with "slackpkg reinstall xfce" might be another vector to eliminate from potential causes of your mystery... good luck
 
Old 10-27-2021, 07:32 PM   #20
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It's only that looking for something becomes a mission. There is just too much stuff in (for example) the Internet menu folder. I don't like sifting through stuff I neither need nor want to get at the things I do: It doesn't suit my workflow. YYMV.
I agree completely... there's no need to look at something everyday, that you'll never use... Your desktop is like your pantry, and there's no need to have the transmission to a vw on the shelf in your pantry, especially if your married...

but one thing that is needed there is a quick way to bring up a "terminal app," which is so needed that right clicking in many window managers will offer that feature...

and there, if looking for a program, like gimp, for example, I could type "which gimp", and it will tell me what to type to run gimp: it says "/usr/bin/gimp"; then if I type "/usr/bin/gimp" it opens up as if I had navigated a nest of menus to find gimp... the "which" program can be a time saver when there's too much stuff in the pantry to find it fast...

If I was looking for a file, instead of a program, I would use the "find" program, which, to work, wants me to tell it three things first: where it should look, what it should look for, and to where it should return the result, so if I wanted to search my entire computer for all jpeg photos of my son, bobdobbs, and assuming I always had the habbit of saving jpeg photos of my son with his name in it, like bobdobbs_at_the_waterfall.jpg, etc., I would type this at the prompt in the terminal app:
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find / -name "*obdobb*.jpg" -print
I type the command "find", followed by "/" that tells it to search the entire computer, followed by a search pattern (searching filenames for all that match the given string, where I used wildcard "*" which matches any single or group of characters), followed by where to return the result: "-print" just prints it to the screen where the command was issued.

You might have already known that, but since the spirit of this post is getting "the bloat" out of the way of your workflow, I thought I'd share the two tools that at least helps me streamline finding stuff through the heaps of programs and files coming with slackware, as well as my own personal bloat of how many files I create and how well I keep them organized, at which point it becomes personal, and to each their own: perosnally my own bloat was greatly reduced when I used NFS to share my home folder accross all the devices I use, reducing duplicates of the same project...

Another way to reduce personal bloat is to not procrastinate by rambling on in threads like this...
 
  


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