LinuxQuestions.org
Welcome to the most active Linux Forum on the web.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Slackware
User Name
Password
Slackware This Forum is for the discussion of Slackware Linux.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 12-09-2017, 08:50 PM   #196
Darth Vader
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2008
Location: Romania
Distribution: DARKSTAR Linux 2008.1
Posts: 2,727

Rep: Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg View Post
I wonder if also in Japanese everything has gender, as their main religion is Shinto, and in anything lives a god, bigger or smaller...
I do not know Japanese, but from what I know they chosen another path.

I understand that in Japanese there are no genders at all, everything being "it", to make a comparation to English.

Last edited by Darth Vader; 12-09-2017 at 09:32 PM.
 
Old 12-09-2017, 08:53 PM   #197
LuckyCyborg
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,508

Rep: Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329
Then how they say "woman" ? "Female human" ?
 
Old 12-09-2017, 08:54 PM   #198
Darth Vader
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2008
Location: Romania
Distribution: DARKSTAR Linux 2008.1
Posts: 2,727

Rep: Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247
I guess there are words for "woman" or "man", but no "she" or "he", only "it"
 
Old 12-09-2017, 08:56 PM   #199
LuckyCyborg
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,508

Rep: Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329
I understand. Then in Japanese you say something like: "I am in hurry to go home, because my wife wait me to go with it at shopping."

Assuming that they have a word for "wife", instead to use the more generic "spouse" .

Last edited by LuckyCyborg; 12-09-2017 at 09:07 PM.
 
Old 12-09-2017, 08:57 PM   #200
Darth Vader
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2008
Location: Romania
Distribution: DARKSTAR Linux 2008.1
Posts: 2,727

Rep: Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247
Same way I guess too. BUT, only a Japanese speaker could enlighten us for real.
 
Old 12-09-2017, 09:01 PM   #201
NoStressHQ
Member
 
Registered: Apr 2010
Location: Geneva - Switzerland ( Bordeaux - France / Montreal - QC - Canada)
Distribution: Slackware 14.2 - 32/64bit
Posts: 609

Rep: Reputation: 221Reputation: 221Reputation: 221
Quote:
Originally Posted by gmgf View Post
Some like him others less

we can not please everyone
Well I'm not talking about "the man", but "the actor", he still have played Cyrano de... Bergerac with quite some talent. I love this play, and I think he (and the whole cast) did a good job on it.
 
Old 12-09-2017, 09:02 PM   #202
LuckyCyborg
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,508

Rep: Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329Reputation: 3329
Totally agree. Brilliant play on this movie from all cast, including him.
 
Old 12-09-2017, 10:28 PM   #203
fido_dogstoyevsky
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Location: Victoria, Australia
Distribution: Slackware 15
Posts: 490
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 576Reputation: 576Reputation: 576Reputation: 576Reputation: 576Reputation: 576
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg View Post
...A rookie coming here feels just like a cowboy visiting the Akademgorodok, because your stack is raised very high.

Maybe it can help you remember what it means to be a user, not a Linux developer and eminent contributor. Just saying...
No slight to new users was intended and apologies offered for any misunderstandings. I understood the post to which I replied to refer to this thread .

And I'm not a developer, just a (still learning) user
 
Old 12-10-2017, 12:18 AM   #204
gmgf
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jun 2012
Location: Bergerac, France
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 2,217

Rep: Reputation: 1006Reputation: 1006Reputation: 1006Reputation: 1006Reputation: 1006Reputation: 1006Reputation: 1006Reputation: 1006
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoStressHQ View Post
Well I'm not talking about "the man", but "the actor", he still have played Cyrano de... Bergerac with quite some talent. I love this play, and I think he (and the whole cast) did a good job on it.
You have right, but i prefer 'les valseuses'
 
Old 12-10-2017, 02:59 AM   #205
bassmadrigal
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: West Jordan, UT, USA
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 8,792

Rep: Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656Reputation: 6656
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vader View Post
BTW, in Romanian, "the computer" has "neutral gender", as its gender change depending in the grammatical constructs.

un computer (M), doua computere (F) (one computer, two computers)
I'm a bit late to this, but it reminded me of a joke I heard quite a while back...

Quote:
A language instructor was explaining to her class that in French, nouns, unlike their English counterparts, are grammatically designated as masculine or feminine.

"House," in French, is feminine = "la maison."

"Pencil," in French, is masculine = "le crayon."

One puzzled student asked, "What gender is 'computer'?"

The teacher did not know, and the word wasn't in her French dictionary. So for fun she split the class into two groups, appropriately enough by gender, and asked them to decide whether "computer" should be a masculine or feminine noun.

Both groups were required to give four reasons for their recommendation.

The men's group decided that computers should definitely be of the feminine gender ("la computer"), because:
  • No one but their creator understands their internal logic;
  • The native language they use to communicate with other computers is incomprehensible to everyone else;
  • Even the smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for possible later retrieval; and
  • As soon as you make a commitment to one, you find yourself spending half your paycheck on accessories for it.

The women's group, however, concluded that computers should be masculine ("le computer"), because:
  • In order to get their attention, you have to turn them on;
  • They have a lot of data but they are still clueless;
  • They are supposed to help you solve problems, but half the time they ARE the problem; and
  • As soon as you commit to one, you realize that if you'd waited a little longer, you could have gotten a better model.
 
9 members found this post helpful.
Old 12-10-2017, 03:20 AM   #206
Didier Spaier
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Paris, France
Distribution: Slint64-15.0
Posts: 11,061

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
@bassmadrigal: thanks for sharing, you made my day.

In French, since more than fourty years we say "un ordinateur", this is a masculine name. But before we used the word "calculatrice" (feminine).

Some strangeness: we have exactly three names that are masculine in the singular form, feminine in the plural one:
amour (love)
délice (delight)
orgue (organ)

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 12-10-2017 at 03:23 AM.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 12-10-2017, 03:41 AM   #207
Darth Vader
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2008
Location: Romania
Distribution: DARKSTAR Linux 2008.1
Posts: 2,727

Rep: Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247
Quote:
Originally Posted by Didier Spaier View Post
@bassmadrigal: thanks for sharing, you made my day.

In French, since more than fourty years we say "un ordinateur", this is a masculine name. But before we used the word "calculatrice" (feminine).

Some strangeness: we have exactly three names that are masculine in the singular form, feminine in the plural one:
amour (love)
délice (delight)
orgue (organ)
Interesting, even in Romanian those words behave the same way, but I suspect that we should "blame" the French for, because looks like they are imported from:

amor
deliciu
organ

Same sense of words, in the same order.

Last edited by Darth Vader; 12-10-2017 at 03:50 AM.
 
Old 12-10-2017, 03:41 AM   #208
Darth Vader
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2008
Location: Romania
Distribution: DARKSTAR Linux 2008.1
Posts: 2,727

Rep: Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247
Quote:
Originally Posted by bassmadrigal View Post
I'm a bit late to this, but it reminded me of a joke I heard quite a while back...
Very nice joke! Thanks!
 
Old 12-10-2017, 03:45 AM   #209
Darth Vader
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2008
Location: Romania
Distribution: DARKSTAR Linux 2008.1
Posts: 2,727

Rep: Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247Reputation: 1247
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vader View Post
Same way I guess too. BUT, only a Japanese speaker could enlighten us for real.
To quote myself, I just remember that our friend Didier has native Japanese contacts in SLINT...

@Didier Spaier, you are only one who can help to resolve some Japanese mysteries for noobs like us, considering their Shinto religion:

the things has gender in Japanese, just like in Latin-based languages?
they has only "it", or also "she" and "he" as pronouns?

Last edited by Darth Vader; 12-10-2017 at 03:53 AM.
 
Old 12-10-2017, 03:56 AM   #210
Didier Spaier
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Paris, France
Distribution: Slint64-15.0
Posts: 11,061

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Sorry, no clue. But have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_pronouns
 
2 members found this post helpful.
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LXer: With 4 Days Left, Sir Tim Berners-Lee, Larry Lessig, And Barbara Van Schewick Beg Europe To Close Net Neutrality Loopholes LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 07-16-2016 07:25 AM
LXer: Qt Developer Days - Europe LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 08-22-2013 09:30 PM
How do I grep my /var/log/secure file for the past 7 days or so many days? johnmccarthy Linux - Newbie 5 01-04-2013 09:43 PM
LXer: Embedded Linux Conference Europe features Torvalds, free LinuxCon Europe pass LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 10-06-2011 09:10 PM
LXer: Eastern Europe schooling US, western Europe on fast broadband LXer Syndicated Linux News 1 09-22-2011 03:25 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Slackware

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:27 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration