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I'm a bit late to this, but it reminded me of a joke I heard quite a while back...
Pretty sure it is masculine.
In my Dutch dialect (where there is still a difference heard in the indefinite article for masculine and feminine words) it sounds masculine. I know it's a rather "new" word, but the dialect picks that up .
'ne computer, 'ne vent (guy), 'ne stier (bull), they are all masculine.
een vrouw (woman), een koei (cow), een teef (bitch).
See the difference?
Can't explain it, it just sounds wrong. The dialect is > 99% right.
Just because an object has assigned a specific gender in a particular language, does not make this a rule generally applied on other languages.
For example, in Romanian the word "muntele", meaning "the mountain" has masculine gender, while in Italian, "the mountain" aka "la montagna" has a feminine gender.
Last edited by Darth Vader; 12-10-2017 at 07:53 PM.
Pretty sure it is masculine.
In my Dutch dialect (where there is still a difference heard in the indefinite article for masculine and feminine words) it sounds masculine. I know it's a rather "new" word, but the dialect picks that up.
Impressive. 'Computer' is masculine in Dutch yes: http://woordenlijst.org/#/?q=computer
It's actually odd that Dutch has grammatical genders but in most of its dialects (citation needed) and as a general rule, does not require its speakers to distinguish well between masculine and feminine for most nouns, unlike most (citation needed) languages that have grammatical genders.
Slightly back on topic, I am European too, but I don't think there's any reason in particular for any real or perceived increase of the number of Europeans posting here.
For example, in Romanian the word "muntele", meaning "the mountain" has masculine gender, while in Italian, "the mountain" aka "la montagna" has a feminine gender.
In french the death ("la mort") is feminine, so it is always funny to talk about, you know, THIS PRATCHETT'S FAMOUS CHARACTER.
Same in Romanian, and the The Death (Moartea) is usually imagined in our tales and jokes as a beautiful but cruel lady reaper, wearing always black.
See this joke, about Jean (one of typical Romanian names).
Code:
Jean rest in his bed, having an old age, and waiting to die. After several days, The Death comes.
The Death: Hi, Jean! I come to ask you to come with me (to second life)
Jean: Hi, Death! Have a tea, first. Then we can go.
The Death: You are not scared of me?
Jean: Why I should be? I lived with your sister over a half of century, after all...
That imply/the joke is that his own wife was a beautiful but very cruel lady, just like The Death.
Last edited by Darth Vader; 12-11-2017 at 04:47 AM.
Well, to note that the real Dracula was not a Count, but a King. And in Old Romanian, the word "Dracula" has the sense of "The Son of (a) Dragon".
It was an appreciation nickname of the King Vlad III Hunyad, a tall and massive man with herculean force, who used to have heavy battles with the Ottoman Empire (the Turks).
Basically, he's the one stopped the Ottoman Empire to invade the Europe and halted them at Wien (capital of Austria even today).
While "Dracula" was his appreciation nickname, he had also a bad nickname: "The Impaler", because his favorite punishment to outlaws.
Finally, the King Vlad III The Impaler is one of the ancestors of the actual British Royal Family, basically the Queen Elizabeth being his grand-grand-grand-...-grand-daughter.
jaso
Sieg of Vienna
frist
27. September - 14. Oktober 1529
second
14. Juli bis zum 12. September
the first time, to many Turkish solders have been killed so they left
the second time the relief army was under polish command, Johann III. Sobieski
Vlad III Dracul, ~ 1431 - 1476
not even possible,
but interesting to see how some view history :-)
I think that the chroniclers believed that the Vlad III The Impaler died at 45, in the 1476, with no clear evidence. Or that the inconvenient evidence has "forgotten" by them for convenience.
However, the Estonian researchers believe they have found evidence that in fact Vlad III The Impaler died of old age in Naples, Italy.
It is also quite possible that he served as general of the Hungarian kingdom many years after his third abdication.
Speaking of the defense of Europe against the Turks, it was a multi-national effort involving many kingdoms over many years, including the Western ones, which provided also logistical support.
Call that World War Zero, if you wish.
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Originally Posted by a4z
but interesting to see how some view history :-)
I agree. Some believe that Wikipedia is the new Trickster of Truth.
And please do not make me started about how the History is manipulated by the political leaders over time, for obscure ideological reasons.
Just imagine the History I read is different of History you read.
Last edited by LuckyCyborg; 12-11-2017 at 05:50 AM.
I think that the chroniclers believed that the Vlad III The Impaler died at 45, in the 1476, with no clear evidence. Or that the inconvenient evidence has "forgotten" by them for convenience.
However, the Estonian researchers believe they have found evidence that in fact Vlad III The Impaler died of old age in Naples, Italy.
It is also quite possible that he served as general of the Hungarian kingdom many years after his third abdication.
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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg
Speaking of the defense of Europe against the Turks, it was a multi-national effort involving many kingdoms over many years, including the Western ones, which provided also logistical support.
Call that World War Zero, if you wish.
indeed , that's why I spoke about a relief army was under polish command
but it is interesting who all saved 'Europa', Hungary did, Serbien did, Rumänien did,
and why did the Turks end up in front of Vienna ?
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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg
I agree. Some believe that Wikipedia is the new Trickster of Truth.
And please do not make me started about how the History is manipulated by the political leaders over time, for obscure ideological reasons.
Just imagine the History I read is different of History you read.
if you live in Karelia, than it will for sure be the case? :-)
indeed , that's why I spoke about a relief army was under polish command
but it is interesting who all saved 'Europa', Hungary did, Serbien did, Rumänien did,
and why did the Turks end up in front of Vienna ?
I think they all did it.
And those times I see them very interesting, because it was the turning point that could have led to an Islamic Europe, instead of being majority Christian today.
Why did the Turks stop in Vienna? I believe that they have attained the limits of their resources, just as the Germans have suffered in Moscow and Stalingrad.
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Originally Posted by a4z
if you live in Karelia, than it will for sure be the case? :-)
My teachers taught me the history as it was seen by the Soviets. You?
Last edited by LuckyCyborg; 12-11-2017 at 07:15 AM.
Let us not forget that the Ottomans just had invaded and assimilated the most powerful and seasoned economy of those times, their equivalent to the US: the Byzantine Empire.
They were at the time a terrible military force for opponents.
My teachers taught me the history as it was seen by the Soviets. You?
Interesting question. I grew up in Austria, after WW2 we had 4 different countries giving us their view for some years,
than Austria became neutral.
so history lections have been heavily influenced by the current teacher and her (or his) political views, and this was pretty diverse, when you visited different schools.
But I had also on teacher that was totally non-political, she let us learn the view of the catholic church
After her I gave up on teachers and read about history in books, what I still do when I have some time left.
But sometimes I ask myself: in an Islamic Europe, would the two World Wars have happened? Would Nazism still emerge in Germany? Would Communism still emerge in Germany to be imported into Russia?
Last edited by LuckyCyborg; 12-11-2017 at 08:01 AM.
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