marijuana

Thanks Drakeo, very sensible. The memory loss I would guess depends on usage although I know lots of old (long time) users of it and they maybe smarter than most or perhaps if someone works around fumes, power-lines and such? Most druggies (that do seem less in the head, at lest) that I've known, go to the Dr. for one of their main mixes (often saying exercise would make it worse ) as well alcohol seems to be heavy with that and them.

enorbet you may want to throw a quote box around that sarcastic (Reefer Madness sounding) stereotype, I almost missed it.

I don't think that you will ever stop marijuana from being smoked, and it does have astonishing medical properties. I think that we're stuck right now in days where "because of 'war on drugs™' legislation, a guy gets busted and sent to prison for 10 years for having a stub of a pot cigarette in his car. The day before he has to report to jail, he goes to a bar and gets drunk while chain-smoking cigarettes, while sitting next to an off-duty cop who's doing the same thing and does nothing because (unless the kid jumps into a car ...) no laws have been broken either by the alcohol (drug) or the nicotine (drug).

But even over and above that, there are a lot of other inconsistencies in our legal behavior. For example, "Meth(amphetamines)," against which millions of dollars of public money are spent every year, would be stopped cold if a certain form of cold-capsule were taken off the market. Instead, it stays there because it is (hmmmm ...) extremely profitable. Now, "Meth" is a scourge to society. But we don't block the commercial manufacture and over-the-counter sale of its most crucial ingredient, without a steady external supply of which, "Meth" production would collapse.

True. Although I do miss chemistry kits with actual chemicals in them, like when I was a kid.

Like has been mentioned, prohibition Fed to organized crime that still kills. The average pot user is against violence (we don't get out the Tommy guns) so government is kinda the organized criminals in this case. I do like the idea of my retirement being a pot smuggler tho I wouldn't go for huge profit but quantity for the payoff and if I'd get caught that's it free food, room and board.

I don't have as much fun as I used to.
But.

I found not being in pain and the ability to focus intently for minutes on a task on my ranch got more things accomplished than when not.

I built my 20X40 foot air force power plant barn from white sands new mexico while working a time clock and raising kids. Being pain free allowed this.

Being pain free and able to concentrate was illegal though for me.
You can't talk the talk unless you walk the walk.

Studies and Links don't cut it for me.
I know what works and what does not.

On the law thing. Back at my ranch at the border crossing.
I watched a 80 year old Hispanic man being led off to Hudspeth county
sheriffs jail in handcuffs. He had a roach in his ash tray.

No tolerance. If he was a county judge or a retired Border patrolman.
Tolerance.

I figure once you hit 80. You get a free pass in life when it comes
to illegal drugs. Dues have been paid in life.

Oh well. I hope he was treated well but I doubt it.

Willie Nelson was also busted at the check point by my ranch.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e enorbet you may want to throw a quote box around that sarcastic (Reefer Madness sounding) stereotype, I almost missed it.

Thanks for the tip. Done and done. And that memory loss thing. Yeah it's nasty to get old and ummm what were we talking about and was I finished? :P

These topics are only useless to you and\or your opinions,,, if you chose to ignore the system that is fuking you! Or, you work for it, perhaps blindly? FREEDOM is not supposed to kill!
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If I was going to ban a drug, then it would be Alcohol. It causes over 4% of world deaths.
I can't think of one death caused by marijuana.
Drug hysteria is what it is.

http://www.hightimes.com/read/fda-no...codin%E2%80%9D

Does the government edit Wikipedia pages??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:A_...eds_re-working

Sorry to rez this thread, but:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/08/1...rug-overdoses/
http://ktla.com/2014/08/07/health-sm...s-of-overdose/

This isn't about regular marijuana, but newly developed synthetic versions. It is still relevant.

As for if I smoke. No way. I don't need to cripple my mind and body.

I'm also not a fan of public use of the stuff, which is inevitable. However, I would not ban any drug, that would result in prohibition style Mafia/Gang rule.

Originally Posted by metaschima Sorry to rez this thread, but: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/08/1...rug-overdoses/ http://ktla.com/2014/08/07/health-sm...s-of-overdose/ This isn't about regular marijuana, but newly developed synthetic versions. It is still relevant.

No it is not relevant. This was some synthetic designer drug alleged to have a "marijuana-like high" that was sprayed on some herbs. The only relevancy is that this kind of "bathtub gin effect" ceases when prohibition dies. Aside from that I'd expand the concept that "the government which governs best, governs least" by pointing out that not only would the courts and prisons be less costly and more effective, but adherence to the law increases when laws are clear and simple.

If you read "Mein Kampf" you will see that one of Hitler's premises for how to gain oppressive control and divide people in the process is to have lots of laws and preferably many that make so-called "victimless crimes" illegal and are extremely obtuse, which divides the populace since they then tend to spy on one another, are afraid to talk openly, have difficulty understanding exactly what is legal and what is not (causing people to err on the side of safety and do nothing) and a whole host of other beneficial effects.... to a dictator.

voted yes

started when i was 15 or so. had about 5 years pause with alcohol and bud but started to smoke again about 2 and half years ago.
i am now 40 years old and i can notice some problems with my memory, i have done iq tests and psychological tests, scored about 128 in iq test and psychological tests were all over average except memory tests. i guess its bcus of my heavy smoking. (when i was about 18-23 years old i smoked 5-10 grams hashis a day)

i tried once sythetic thc, its crazy stuff, ill just say to u guys - Dont smoke it.

Your memory gets better if you exercise it, worse if you don't. That said everything is different. Maybe you are just unlucky in your "old age" and need to see an actual doctor?

Slightly off-topic:
My neck of the woods just banned Salvia Divinorum even tho it's been used since, at lest, the Mayans (like weed nontoxic if vaporized or ate plus safer than all hallucinogenics if you now how and why..). Their first reaction maybe fear (because like Jimmy they're not experienced) but lets face it who want$ ju$t anyone to expand their mind$? Power to the people!

“Victimless crimes” are not victimless, the cops are henchmen creating victims... addiction is a smaller problem than stupidity but not a crime (like it,) let the bombs drop where they may! ��

http://www.krazlaw.com/blog/2014/02/...ss-crime.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victimless_crime

Someone who loves cocaine but doesn't abuse it is a fing genus! Many cops are leashed and\or to\or scumbags!

KEEP YOUR F-ing "LAWS" OFF MY BODY, "you" won't let me have cheep or free healthcare any fingway...

"you know Roy every time frank kills someone out there"
He kills drug dealers which "you" deem not pharmacists! "come on be like a man" with a gun!!! (F the taser and pepper spray (on the unarmed it feels good to kill both\and the dumb shits!)!)

Kops love war just look at it!!!!

There's stupidity in office and it's ours,,, vote legalize even if it's not on the ballots☮

I tried pot once. Didn't do anything, and I smoked hydroponic sensamillia too, and friend who gave it to me took one puff and was on Cloud 9. I got hungry, but that was it, I went back to cleaning our apartment and never felt anything else. A can of Pringles did get munched on though.

I think it's abused due to recreational overuse.

In my opinion, it needs control, and needs to be limited to patients with life-threatening illnesses that have a chance of becoming, or being terminal illnesses as a way to help them ease pain, aid medicines in speeding up effects, and relaxing them.

Someone with ADHD, back pain, and such doesn't need pot. They need a slap up side the head, a hobby, and/or a massage therapist or chiropractor.