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Old 08-16-2018, 11:47 AM   #1
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How to get connection from Mint to XP?


Hello (I'm new here and this is my first posting),

I think I've read nearly everything about that connection - it will not work here!
If someone will be able to lead me through the first steps that I have to perform under Windows XP....
I have two computers with Mint 19 and XP. The connection from Mint 19 Cinnamon to Mint 19 (with cable) works perfectly but not from Mint 19 to XP.
If I work on the XP-Computer which I want to reach from the Mint-Computer, I simply don't know what I have to do under XP.
Hope someone takes me by the hand here......

Best wishes
Klaus from Berlin :-)
 
Old 08-16-2018, 12:51 PM   #2
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It depends on what you mean by "connect". Are you trying to open remote desktop of XP on your Linux system?
Are you trying to telnet, ssh, ftp or sftp to it? Are you trying to mount shared filesystems from XP onto your Linux?

Give some idea of exactly what your'e trying to accomplish.
 
Old 08-16-2018, 01:10 PM   #3
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It depends on what you mean by "connect". Are you trying to open remote desktop of XP on your Linux system?
Are you trying to telnet, ssh, ftp or sftp to it? Are you trying to mount shared filesystems from XP onto your Linux?
Give some idea of exactly what your'e trying to accomplish.
That's because of my lack of English. :-(
In german we call it the Net. A connection from one Computer to another with a cable (or with the I-net - not here in my case).
If I start both Computers with Mint, I can connect one with the other. I can even see the other Computer's Name on my desktop and when I doubleclick on that name, I will be connected. And I can download files from one Computer to the other.
But I don't see the other Computer, when I have started it with Windows XP instead of Mint. Sometimes I have to save some films etc. with an XP-Programm, which I would like to work with later on on my Mint-Computer. Up to now I had to copy those films to an USB-Stick or something else and copy it afterwards to the other Computer, which I find is a too long procedure and not very elegant. If you know what I mean. :-)

Best wishes
Klaus
 
Old 08-16-2018, 03:33 PM   #4
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Your English is fine. It is just that "connect" can mean so many different things when it comes to computers.

Can you ping your Mint system from your XP system?

If so I'd suggest the easiest path would to install WinSCP on your XP system. WinSCP site is https://winscp.net/eng/downloads.php. You may need an older version for XP and there is a link there to SourceForge site for older versions.

Once you have WinSCP you can use it to open an sftp connection to your Mint system then drag files from XP to Mint which will copy them.
 
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Old 08-17-2018, 03:41 AM   #5
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Can you ping your Mint system from your XP system?
-> Destination Host Unreachable
...when I try to reach the XP system from my Mint.
By the way - that XP-Computer has no connection to the Internet which is okay, 'cause that's my intention.

Last edited by ranunculus; 08-17-2018 at 05:25 AM.
 
Old 08-17-2018, 06:58 AM   #6
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Hi,

How do you have the Win/XP computer connected to the Linux computer? Via crossover cable connected to the Ethernet port of each computer?
 
Old 08-17-2018, 07:05 AM   #7
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Hi,

You might wish to try https://putty.org/
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Download PuTTY

PuTTY is an SSH and telnet client, developed originally by Simon Tatham for the Windows platform. PuTTY is open source software that is available with source code and is developed and supported by a group of volunteers.
You can download PuTTY here.
This utility will allow you to communicate via the client to other computers over a SSH session using interconnected computers using Ethernet or wireless.

Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
Old 08-17-2018, 11:42 AM   #8
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I'm reading that the OP is trying to go FROM the Linux 'puter TO the Windows 'puter.

ranunculus
Please answer these questions:
How do you have the Win/XP computer connected to the Linux computer?
What are you entering to get
Code:
 Destination Host Unreachable
on the Mint? Show us the command and the response.
What do you mean by the XP is "not connected to the internet"
and
What are you trying to accomplish with the connection?

Connecting FROM Windows TO Linux with WinSCP and/or PuTTY, as suggested, may be all you need, but we need to know what you're trying to do, and why.
 
Old 08-17-2018, 02:07 PM   #9
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I'm reading that the OP is trying to go FROM the Linux 'puter TO the Windows 'puter.
ranunculus
Please answer these questions:
How do you have the Win/XP computer connected to the Linux computer?
with a LAN-Cable over a HUB.
Quote:
What are you entering to get
Code:
 Destination Host Unreachable
on the Mint? Show us the command and the response.
The command from the XP-Computer is: ping 192.168.2.106
Quote:
What do you mean by the XP is "not connected to the internet"
and What are you trying to accomplish with the connection?
I have no connection to the Internet with XP - don't know how I have stopped it four years ago. I simply didn't want XP to connect, because I connect with Linux Mint 19.
I would like to have the connection again now, because I sometimes wish to copy some files from XP to the Linux-Computer without always use a USB-Stick etc.
Quote:
Connecting FROM Windows TO Linux with WinSCP and/or PuTTY, as suggested, may be all you need, but we need to know what you're trying to do, and why.
I tried PuTTY without success. :-(
 
Old 08-17-2018, 02:41 PM   #10
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It sounds like the Windows box does not have networking running at all.

Open a cmd window on the Windows 'puter and show us the response to
Code:
ipconfig /all
You can't connect to the Windows box if it's not connected to your LAN
 
Old 08-17-2018, 03:02 PM   #11
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Hi,

From the Linux system, open a terminal and issue from the cli; 'ifconfig -a' and post the output. Also from the cli use; 'route -n' and post that.

From Xp open command window and do a 'ipconfig /all', please post that. Be sure to use code tags for the posted output. The # sign upper right edit window will place your highlighted data in a code window.

You need to make sure the machines are on the same LAN sub-net. You issued a 'ping 192.168.2.106' on the Xp machine so is your Linux machine and the Xp in the sub-net '192.168.2.xxx' where the xxx is a unique IP for each machine. By issuing the 'route-n' you will show the kernel route table to indicate where the Linux machine resides on the LAN and routing information. So you seem to feel the Linux machine's IP is '192.168.2.106' so the Xp machine should have an assignment within that range. By using the 'ipconfig /all' on Xp will show the assignments for that machine.

BTW, do not use a crossover cable with the Hub. If it was a switch then there should/would be no problem.

Hope this helps.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 04:14 AM   #12
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Hi,

From the Linux system, open a terminal and issue from the cli; 'ifconfig -a' and post the output.
Code:
ifconfig -a
enp3s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
        inet 192.168.2.106  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.2.255
        inet6 fe80::376a:1e3c:a0e6:b5ff  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
        inet6 2003:84:ad62:9cf8:ec38:78fb:1360:6f2c  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x0<global>
        inet6 2003:84:ad62:9cf8:28e8:8f2e:86bd:8b02  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x0<global>
        ether 00:19:99:7d:38:c2  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
        RX packets 51096  bytes 52062052 (52.0 MB)
        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
        TX packets 34156  bytes 4879974 (4.8 MB)
        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>  mtu 65536
        inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0
        inet6 ::1  prefixlen 128  scopeid 0x10<host>
        loop  txqueuelen 1000  (Lokale Schleife)
        RX packets 2992  bytes 274531 (274.5 KB)
        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
        TX packets 2992  bytes 274531 (274.5 KB)
        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
Also from the cli use; 'route -n' and post that.
Code:
route -n
Kernel-IP-Routentabelle
Ziel            Router          Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
0.0.0.0         192.168.2.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 enp3s0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 enp3s0
192.168.2.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     100    0        0 enp3s0
From Xp open command window and do a 'ipconfig /all', please post that. Be sure to use code tags for the posted output. The # sign upper right edit window will place your highlighted data in a code window.
Code:
ipconfig /all
Windows-IP-Konfiguration
Hostname............KLAUS-DESKTOP
Primäres DNS-Suffix................
Knotentyp...unbekannt (unknown)
IP-Routing aktiviert......ja (yes)
WINS-Proxy aktiviert......ja (yes)

Ethernetadapter LAN-Verbindung 3:
Verbindungsspezifisches DNS-Suffix:
Beschreibung..........:Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller #2
Physikalische Adresse.............BC-5F-F4-62-DF-93
DHCP aktiviert..............No
IP-Adresse...............192.168.2.113
Subnetzmaske.............255.255.255.0
Standartgateway..........1.0.0.0
DNS-Server...............1.0.0.0
Hope this helps.
So do I.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 02:44 PM   #13
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Thinking op needs a simple SMB share mounted on both sides.
On both computers change the gateway address to that of the hub/switch.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 05:12 PM   #14
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Hi,

Unless the switch are smart thus addressable then no gateway can be targeted or assigned/made. A switch will use a MAC address to facilitate the LAN but unless it has a smart controller then not directly addressable/target-able. You can get Smart/Controllable switches that can be targeted but expect to pay a good price for one. I would use a router for that purpose.

As for the HUB, it's purpose is to provide information to all ports thus allowing LAN segmenting. The big reason to use a switch vs HUB is that the switch will provide information to the ports via a MAC address. You can get a switchable HUB that will provide load balancing. Personally, I prefer a switch for ease of use with speed and cost.

Look here for definitions that can help to understand; https://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow...switch_hub.asp

Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
Old 08-20-2018, 08:02 PM   #15
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It's been a long time since I had an XP box, but, if I remember, in order to connect via SAMBA to see file shares, NETBEUI needed to be installed.
 
  


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