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Old 03-11-2015, 02:12 PM   #1
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Possibly Off-Topic: Remote X Clients In Haiku OS


This question is possibly off-topic, since
Haiku OS is not really a dialect of UNIX,
not internally. But I saw no forum on
this website that was better suited to
my question.

Is it possible to run remote X clients in
Haiku, and, if so, how? E.g., I can ssh
from 172.16.1.1 to another Unix computer,
and then type

DISPLAY=172.16.1.1:0 xterm

to bring up a terminal on my local monitor
on which I am logged in to the remote machine.
However, when I ssh from 172.16.1.1 to a
Haiku computer,

-> export DISPLAY=172.16.1.1:0
~> Terminal

does nothing visible.

Thank you in advance for any and all replies.
I apologize if the question is off-topic, and
if you have an answer that you think is not of
general interest, please send your reply to
jay at m5 dot chicago dot il dot us.

Last edited by shachter; 03-13-2015 at 04:48 PM.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 04:09 PM   #2
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The normal way requires Hiku to have an X server available.

Second, the best way to get X sent is by ssh with X forwarding enabled. This is because the initial connection to an X server uses the MIT "magic cookie" (a random 256 bit key) as a password - and unfortunately it is sent in cleartext, allowing the password to be sniffed from the net.

From what I read Kiku doesn't natively have X available, but it appears that an X server can be installed.
 
Old 03-12-2015, 01:09 PM   #3
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Might want to ask on their forum. I wasn't sure the project was still alive (remember when it started after BeOS died off).
Haven't thought about that in a long time (remembered looking at it when Best Buy sold it, LONG time ago).
Didn't think it was nix based at all.
 
Old 03-13-2015, 04:07 PM   #4
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Apparently I did not make my question entirely clear. The question
is not whether Haiku has an X server, the question is whether it has
X clients. I am sitting in front of a computer that has an X server,
I want to ssh in to a Haiku machine and type a command that will pop
up something equivalent to an xterm window on my local machine. Thus,
for example, Microsoft Windows is not Unix, but if I install Cygwin
on a Microsoft Windows sytem, I have access to xterm. I can ssh
in to, eg, 172.16.1.2, into the cygwin environement (because cygwin
also has sshd), and type

export DISPLAY=172.16.1.1:0
xterm &

and then I see an xterm window pop up on the local machine (172.16.1.1)
in which I am logged in to the remote machine (172.16.1.2).

So, I can do this on a Microsoft Windows system, after installing cygwin,
and of course I can do it on any Unix system. Can I do this, or anything
resembling this, on a Haiku system? The question, again, is not whether
there is an X server for Haiku, but whether there are X clients for Haiku.

As for the gentleman or lady who advised me to make my inquiry on their
forum, I am ignorant of how to access any Haiku forum, or even of whether
one exists. If you can direct me to a Haiku forum on which I can re-post
my inquiry, that, too, would be most helpful. As always, thank you in
advance for any and all replies.

jay at m5 dot chicago dot il dot us

Last edited by shachter; 03-13-2015 at 04:49 PM.
 
Old 03-13-2015, 04:19 PM   #5
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You might check the kit that has the X server. Frequently they will include the standard X tools, which includes xterm.
 
Old 03-13-2015, 04:48 PM   #6
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I don't know what you mean by "the kit that has the X server".
The current release of Haiku doesn't have a package manager,
so I don't know what the term "kit" refers to, in Haiku
(I have been given to understand that there is a package
manager, a new one, if you download a snapshot of the daily
source code and built Haiku from source, but there is none
in any of the installable ISOs).

Also, I did not know that Haiku has an X server at all.
It does have a graphical user interface, but that does not
mean that it has an X server; Microsoft Windows also has
a graphical user interface, but it does not come with an
X server (although you do get one, as I indicated earlier,
if you install all of cygwin).

I appreciate your answer, but please clarify it. Thank
you in advance.


jay at m5 dot chicago dot il dot us
 
Old 03-13-2015, 05:09 PM   #7
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An X server for haiku should include the associated tools... Just like Cygwin has an X server.. it also has an xterm.
 
Old 03-14-2015, 02:03 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shachter View Post
As for the gentleman or lady who advised me to make my inquiry on their
forum, I am ignorant of how to access any Haiku forum, or even of whether
one exists. If you can direct me to a Haiku forum on which I can re-post
my inquiry, that, too, would be most helpful. As always, thank you in
advance for any and all replies.

jay at m5 dot chicago dot il dot us
I thought Haiku didn't use X since they didn't like the idea of the OS as parts and wanted an whole, complete/same design thing. That left me thinking for running it remotely, you might have to look at something like VNC and see if it would support it.
That said, on the main page for it, at the top there is a community button. When you click on that one of the options on the next page takes you to: http://haiku-os.org/forum
 
  


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