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View Poll Results: Question or background ?
I prefer the question first, then the background to it. 13 65.00%
I prefer the background first, then the problem to be solved. 7 35.00%
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:58 AM   #16
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Being rather verbose myself I've often found people won't read everything one writes.
both of those points also true for me.
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Therefore I try to do summary questions first then give the background.
I agree, the question serves as intro.
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The question may peak
pique! :-)
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the interest of someone who then may take the time to read the background. Of course since we can put titles on posts I try to make my title concise for that purpose and may put the question(s) at the end.
I consider the title to be intro to the intro. I've repeatedly often read many times that repetition is a recommended communication technique (method, strategy, tool, modus operandi, tactic, approach.. hmm, i need a better thesaurus.)
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The background is important - there's many a person I've responded to based on the sparse information in their post who comes back with a purpose completely at odds with the question he asked or the response made to the question based on assumed intent.
OTOH, you mentioned the need for verbosity vs readers' attentiveness problem. When my topic is unavoidably verbose, my best compromise is: I compose my 1st post already intending to fit further detail into *my* replies to readers' replies.
 
Old 10-07-2010, 01:03 AM   #17
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google sez: 1 furlongs cubed = 8 140 980.13 m3

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"I'm running linux on my lawnmower, it has a 50cc Engine, and won't network"
ahh, but perhaps that engine is not truly Metric. It might have been built in furlongs cubed, then labeled as 50cc. I betcha didn't think of that, didja?

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Old 10-07-2010, 01:10 AM   #18
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Ignore the man behind the curtain!

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sometimes its much better not to ask any questions... ! lol
i COMMAND you to provide a solution
 
Old 10-07-2010, 07:42 AM   #19
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I've always heard the only stupid question is the one you don't ask.

If you don't know something but you're afraid to show your ignorance by asking you're the one who suffers. Remember ignorance can be cured but stupidity can't. Although I've seen many a poster who acted as if he was born knowing what he knows the plain truth is no one was born knowing anything.
 
Old 10-07-2010, 03:19 PM   #20
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To digress a little from the original topic ...

Does it bug you if people start their message with something like :
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So, I was talking to my friend and he reckons that if I reconvert the disconbobulator and then twist the final bracket I should be able to convert full HD BD into wmv without worrying about it.
What do you think ? Should I use Pearl for this ?

Here's the specs of my gaming machine :
Ludicrous CPU
gobs of Ram
Immense hard drives
win7 running off a flash drive
57" HD monitor
oodles of attitude
WTF !

{ Yes you've got the kit, but what can you do with it ?
From your tone it appears that you need to calm down a wee bit.
This is a big subject involving many, many variables.
Do you know what a variable is ?
Well, back when people were young and life was easy, a few guys came up with a few ideas about automatic calculating machines. This idea grew and was transformed by the invention of the transistor. Since then, it's all been about on||off....}

It's about this stage that people stop listening.

But unless they understand what it is that they are dealing with (and by the attitude of the message, they don't..., they can never truly appreciate what they're doing, and what is happening. Sure you make a language as high level as you like, but that's not open source, surely ?
The aim of every answer (IMHO) is to cause the OP never to have to ask a question about that issue again. But how can you do that if the answer isn't "click this, select that" ?

little worlds, little worlds ...

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Old 10-07-2010, 04:05 PM   #21
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Actually in the case you mention I blame the "friend" more than the poster. The poster is displaying his ignorance but letting you know his friend is stupid because he "thought" he knew what he was talking about.

I don't mind correcting misapprehensions in a post so long as the OP doesn't argue with those corrections. What really gets me are the folks that post something then argue with your response instead of realizing that your response was generated by what they posted. These folks often fall into one of two categories:
1) They asked the wrong question. In such a case I'll respond again - the likelihood I'll also tell them they need to be more polite (not always in polite terms) depends on how polite they were in the follow up.
2) They think they know it all already in which case my question is always "Then why did this putz have to ask a question?". I may or may not respond asking them that very thing. Sometimes the OP comes off their high horse and admits they were in error and you can continue the thread to conclusion.

I don't really mind having multiple posts to conclusion so long as each post seems to be getting somewhere (e.g. they add new information requested or restate questions showing they have a glimmer of what was wrong with their original question.)
 
Old 10-08-2010, 08:10 AM   #22
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Obscure request ... nxja

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i COMMAND you to provide a solution

A solution to what... ???

by the way its highly unusual to be cammanded by an unknown... you are judged by your works and results not your grasp of waffle...
 
  


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