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I read the threads and the Last Edited is small and italic. I think you're being too picky. Honestly I don't think one person who doesn't like it is going to force Jeremy to change the code that displays it.
OK, now I know what I do not like about it. Enforcement.
Let's sum it up.
I do not like anything enforced on me.
You have to do it because we encounter ethical and unethical people here, the usual mix, unethical are the majority. And you can do it because it's your forum.
Case closed.
Exactly. LQ is not a democracy run by it's members. LQ is owned by Jeremy, his site and his rules. Although he appreciates feedback and suggestions, I think something so small and minuscule isn't enough to warrant a total change due to one person.
I sort of worry about posting sometimes. I feel that others will think that i am hiding something if I edit a post after posting before others have replied. I don't worry too much about it but......it niggles. I think I understand what Emerson is saying.
Last edited by esteeven; 06-05-2008 at 04:06 PM.
Reason: because I can?
I read the threads and the Last Edited is small and italic. I think you're being too picky. Honestly I don't think one person who doesn't like it is going to force Jeremy to change the code that displays it.
So this is not a feedback forum? I'm not entitled to put my opinion here? Sorry, folks. Won't do it any more.
But if we're not told that you've edited a post, surely you're hiding more? It's an informational message and no judgments are made. If you've read the post and then notice that it's been edited, you may compare the edited post with your memory to see what's changed - 99% of the time it's edited for grammar or spelling. Really no big deal.
And it's hardly an enforcement - it simply tells people that you cared enough to go back to what you said and changed it to be more informative/more readable/or whatever.
So this is not a feedback forum? I'm not entitled to put my opinion here? Sorry, folks. Won't do it any more.
Did you not read my other reply as well? I still think you're making a big deal out of something small. You talk about enforcement but we're not making you use this site? Do you drive? Do you always agree with the speed limit posted? Do you think they're going to change it cause you might be the only one that has a problem with it? I don't think so.
Who honestly cares if someone goes back to edit their post? It means nothing but, they edited their post for any reason.
So this is not a feedback forum? I'm not entitled to put my opinion here? Sorry, folks. Won't do it any more.
I didn't see any hint in this thread that you're not entitled to that opinion.
I see indications that others (including me) don't share that opinion. I see indications that others (including me) find your opinion surprising enough that we were curious why you held such an opinion. And I see indications that others think your opinion on this isn't likely to gain much traction with other members nor with forum management.
I guess I even see some who are so confident of the validity of the apparent majority opinion that they think you can be persuaded to change your mind.
But I don't see (what you imply you see in making the above complaint) that anyone was upset with you for expressing the original opinion.
3'rd Edit (this time for content, not typos). I half changed my mind. There was an unfortunate effect of a multi-way conversation. I think Jeremy kind of pushed you for excessive clarification of an opinion he (and I) apparently found strange, while it seems trickykid reacted to your apparently excessive clarification of the viewpoint as if you were making a fuss (specifically about "enforcement") rather than answering a question.
4'th Edit. Isn't it useful that we get the timestamps, so at least you know when I finally quit, when I add content back in an old post.
OK, I disclosed my opinion on this matter. Jeremy answered it.
Why you are attacking me? You want me to change my opinion? Because you think it's wrong? I have to add something. I do not like enforcement nor do I like fanaticism - any kind of it. Saying you are wrong because you do not think like me is a feature of fanaticism. You have the right for your opinion, I recognize it. Why don't you recognize my right to have mine?
Grammatical corrections and spelling aside, is it not possible that it might be necessary to see what a poster originally posted? I am certainly NOT asking for any kind of code change or any kind of change to the LQ system but don't you ever wonder what someone *really* said?
OK, I disclosed my opinion on this matter. Jeremy answered it.
Why you are attacking me? You want me to change my opinion? Because you think it's wrong? I have to add something. I do not like enforcement nor do I like fanaticism - any kind of it. Saying you are wrong because you do not think like me is a feature of fanaticism. You have the right for your opinion, I recognize it. Why don't you recognize my right to have mine?
I'm not asking you to change your opinion, I'm just stating mine and what I feel is going to happen, absolutely nothing. I feel the last edited is small and minuscule and is the last of probably 99.999999999% of the members that use this sites worries. I'm just curious of why someone would make such a big deal about it. That's all.
Grammatical corrections and spelling aside, is it not possible that it might be necessary to see what a poster originally posted? I am certainly NOT asking for any kind of code change or any kind of change to the LQ system but don't you ever wonder what someone *really* said?
Just be happy you have the right to edit your own posts. Some and a lot of forums don't even allow such things. Think of it this way, either have something that says you edited your post or take away the ability to edit your own post. It's information only. And why would anyone be scared of what's said on a public forum? It's public, if the last edit worries any member, they shouldn't participate in an open forum searchable by anyone with internet access anyways.
but don't you ever wonder what someone *really* said?
On rare occasion, when there is a strange disconnect between a reply and a post and there is also an edit to that post, I wonder what that reply was really replying to.
But much more often, I'm really glad that I can fix something really stupid I said in a post before anyone has a chance to reply.
As a matter of honesty, once I see replies and/or if it has been there a while and the stupidity was in the thought rather than in the typing, I leave the original stupid statement and put in an EDIT note to say I now understand I was wrong.
Hello Johnsfine : isn't what you are saying exactly what Emerson said? You want to edit a post because you made a mistake? And you are pleased to do this before anyone has a chance to reply? You want to do this because you said something stupid? How does it help that your post records your correction?
I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY with the honesty part of your post. I sometimes think though that I would rather see a post later correcting a statement ie if I see the correction in the original thread, it sort of spoils the "discussion." What do you think?
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