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Old 02-17-2005, 09:50 PM   #1
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xine problem


i try to install xine it it says "error: conditional "HAVE_XV" was never defined." i found this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/275882 and tried installing xorg-x11-devel. I downloaded both versions for SUSE as that is what i am using. i tried the first one by typing in the console "rpm -i <filenam>" and it give me "warning: xorg: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 0dd8616d" i also tried the other one and nothing shows up. i still have the problem. am i not using rpm files right or do i need something else?
 
Old 02-17-2005, 10:34 PM   #2
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Why don't you install it using YAST.
 
Old 02-17-2005, 10:37 PM   #3
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no dvd support
 
Old 02-17-2005, 10:47 PM   #4
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I think what redazz was refering to was installing the downloaded xine rpm with YaST instead of in the CLI, not installing the xine that comes with the SuSE install. If you browse to the folder with the RPm in it with konqueror and click on the RPm it will open up a window with the description of the RPM and in the upper left corner of the screen there will be a butt to install the RPM with YaST. Give that a try and let us know how things work out.

Are you trying to install xine from source or from an RPM?

If you are trying from source try the RPM from PackMan it is compiled for SuSE.

Also if your trying to install from an RPM you may check to make sure it was made for SuSE if your not sure download the one above, It was made for SuSE and I know it works since I downloaded it last week to update my xine install.
 
Old 02-17-2005, 11:03 PM   #5
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i clicked on the rpm and a window popped up adking me what to open it with. scrolling thorugh the list of applications, i chose yast but it just loads for a long time and then nothing happens. nothing opens up. it that supposed to happen?
 
Old 02-18-2005, 12:52 AM   #6
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Ok, I'll give you more detail. Download the version of xine from the xine nightly builds page and install that. You will also need the win32 codecs as well as libdvdcss. I think the version of Xine from Suse is crippled, thats why I have said you can use the one from Xine themselves. If the one from the PackMan site works for you, then you can use that. If you want to compile it from source, install xorg-devel using YAST. You can install in the CLI or using YAST, but I usually prefer using the CLI.
 
Old 02-18-2005, 04:51 AM   #7
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ok im just so confused now. i installed most of them and it seems to have been installed. that site says to typ something like this: # rpm -U libxine1* xine-ui*. when i type it it loads a lot then nothing happens. actually, the only thing i installed so far is firefox because that needs no dependencies! i am so confused. oh and whats CLI? is it the terminal? and I still dont know how to install things using YAST that isnt from the installation CD.
 
Old 02-18-2005, 06:03 AM   #8
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I think its installed, the reason why you didn't see the installation progress is because you used "rpm -U" instead of "rpm -Uvh". Anyway if it's installed, run "xine" from the console or from your menu. If it's not appearing in your menu, you can check that it's installed by running,
#rpm -qa | grep -i xine
a list of xine packages should be listed, if nothing appears then it's not installed. (but like I said I believe it is).
 
Old 02-18-2005, 08:47 PM   #9
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thx it works completely now. however, there are a few problems. one of them being playing dvds. on my windows system they play fine. put here, it can play some tracks while others pop up an error stating "the source cant be read. maybe you dont have the rights for this, or source doesnt contain data" if i click on more, it will have lots of "audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type #######" another problem is playing back avi files. one one episode of divx encoded video its fine. then the next one didnt work. i looked in windows and found out that the one that worked was encoded in divx 5.x while the one that didnt was in 4.x. everythiing else is the same. could that be the problem?
 
Old 02-18-2005, 11:54 PM   #10
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i discovered wuts wrong. it only happens when i turn on dma by typing # hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom. why? if i turn it off, video stutters!
 
Old 02-19-2005, 09:06 PM   #11
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the -dx +dx flag disables or enables DMA support, respectively. By disabling it you are reverting hard drive access to PIO mode, which is far more CPU-intensive than DMA.

What is the difference? [b]In a most simplistic explanation[/i] (and not entirely 100% accurate - I'm leaving a lot out) for ease of understanding, the difference is this:

PIO: the CPU has to talk directly to the DVD drive, saying "I want this byte of data, and I want it put at address foo" and the machine comes to a screeching halt while the data is fetched and placed into memory, and it repeats ad nauseum.

DMA: the CPU tells the drive controller chipset "I want data ranging from X to Z, and I want it put at address foo. I'm going to go do some other stuff while I wait, just let me know when I can use the data" - then the data transfer is offloaded to the chipset to handle, and the CPU comes back and processes the data once it's moved and ready to manipulate.

That's PIO vs. DMA put very simply in a nutshell. If you want a more accurate description see any of the following:

http://www.veritest.com/bi/cont1998/...a.asp?visitor=
http://www.volny.cz/xnavara/dmamail.htm
http://www.pctechguide.com/08cd-rom_DMA_vs_PIO_mode.htm
http://www.compguysinc.com/techweb/h.../dma-pio.shtml

There used to be much better explanations (including whitepapers) covering how each works easily found by a quick google search but I can't find the ones I wanted to link to just now.

Anyway, I hope the pages I linked to explain the performance degradation you've noticed, in terms you can understand. (I don't know what level of user you are)
 
  


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