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Old 06-07-2004, 01:39 PM   #16
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yes fancypiper winXP has access to the command line just as win2k does.

start, run, cmd, enter

its the same dumbed down vs of the dos window as win2k and win2k3, but it does give you access to some of your more basic troubleshooting steps that can be handled much faster via cmd vs GUI.

i use it all the time for networking and troubleshooting in my LANs i support.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 01:56 PM   #17
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So I guess the next logical question might be,
What NIC cards (and corresponding drivers) do work with SuSE 9.1?
Because it sounds like this may be a problem only SuSE can fix.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 02:21 PM   #18
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SuSE Hardware requirements

The LDP has a hardware compatability list as well.

Find out what your ethernet card is by opening an x terminal, su- to gain root priveleges
Code:
Mon Jun 07 03:14 PM fancy@uilleann ~ $ su -
Password:
Mon Jun 07 03:14 PM root@uilleann ~ # cat /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
<snip>
    Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet  (rev 144).
      IRQ 10.
      Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=52.Max Lat=11.
      I/O at 0xd800 [0xd8ff].
      Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xcfffd000 [0xcfffdfff].
<snip>
Now, see if a module is loaded for that ethernet card:
Code:
Mon Jun 07 03:11 PM root@uilleann ~ # lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
<snip>
sis900                 15372   1
<snip>
If you have both, it's just a matter of giving the info your ISP wants to login. Perhaps you can configure what you need with SuSE's gui config tool.

Last edited by fancypiper; 06-07-2004 at 02:31 PM.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 03:03 PM   #19
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I just wanted to say that I have been running versions of Suse since 8.2 with my Linksys PCI network card. I am at work at the moment so I cannot tell you exactly what model it is. I have had no problems with it. It does use the Tulip driver. I did an FTP install of Suse 9.1 over the weekend and had no problems with the Linksys. I used the Tulip driver on the Boot disk and did the install with no problems.

Don't know what to suggest to try, but I wanted to let y'all know that the Tulip driver does work with my Linksys network card.

Dave
 
Old 06-07-2004, 03:51 PM   #20
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history to back up and correct as in bash (up arrow gives last command and you can edit typos).
You could do that since Windows 2000. I guess you have been away awhile.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 04:19 PM   #21
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Originally posted by MS3FGX
You could do that since Windows 2000. I guess you have been away awhile.
Not on my box, not on my son's box. Please tell me how? Up arrow gives absolutely nothing in my Windows 2000 Professional (last went to Windows update at the first of the month, so it's a monthly thing for me).
 
Old 06-07-2004, 05:40 PM   #22
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My fellow posters, I've been thinking, and I have a theory. I have had the same old clunker of a pc for 4 years now and I was wondering if any of you think that perhaps my problems could stem from a few tiny inconsistencies and incompatibilities of the hardware and the software. I mean my system is a 1st gen P4 1.8Ghz 400FSB Gateway. I'm guessing that the newest versions of Linux (with the newer kernel) may be too advanced and therefore make my system incompatible to fully run SuSE linux. Is that too out of line to asume? I believe it is not therefore I am going to suspend my quest (and my rants & raves) until I get a newer PC and I will get a replacement copy of my SuSE 9.1 Pro just for good measure.

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Old 06-07-2004, 06:05 PM   #23
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Could you find the ethernet in the list (cat /proc/pci) and was the module for it loaded (lsmod)?

See my example of what I get on my system posted above.

If you can, it's just a matter of figuring out and configuring the connection to use what your ISP wants you to.

All my boxen are older than yours (Celeron Coppermine 850 Mhz, Duron 950 Mhz). If you have win-hardware, you will need propritary drivers which most "Windows preinstalled" boxes use. Find the non-real hardware and replace it with properly supported hardware is usually the best solution.

It will improve the performance of Windows as well.

I have to use 56k dialup, myself (3 days to download one ISO).

Last edited by fancypiper; 06-07-2004 at 06:23 PM.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 06:28 PM   #24
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I want to build my own system anyway. I just think that there is some incompatibilty somewhere with my hardware. I don't know. I'm just going to sit on it a while. Although this module loading stuff sounds like that may be the problem.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 06:38 PM   #25
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You could check and see for sure. All it takes is a little typing.

Open an x terminal (some menu item or icon on your panel or desktop should have terminal or command line in it's name, place the curser over it and a popup should appear) and type:

su -
<enter root password>
lsmod | less (if you can use the scrollbar on the x terminal, you can omit the | less part)
That (lsmod) will list the running modules that are loaded into the kernel and the | (piping symbol) puts it into another program that will let you scroll back and forth through the long list with keystrokes.

You also could try posting the output you get if you give these commands as root:
Code:
Mon Jun 07 07:43 PM fancy@uilleann ~ $ su -
Password:
Mon Jun 07 07:43 PM root@uilleann ~ # ifdown eth0
Mon Jun 07 07:44 PM root@uilleann ~ # ifup eth0
Mon Jun 07 07:44 PM root@uilleann ~ #
That's how I got connected to my son's cable modem, after I configured the IP numbers that he used.

Last edited by fancypiper; 06-07-2004 at 06:48 PM.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 06:54 PM   #26
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Thanks for the info, I've long since (2 weeks ago) taken Linux off my box and put XP back on. I think I'm just going to chill for now and wait until I get a new PC.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 06:57 PM   #27
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No wonder we can't get any info from you! Why didn't you say so earlier?

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Old 06-07-2004, 07:14 PM   #28
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Not on my box, not on my son's box. Please tell me how? Up arrow gives absolutely nothing in my Windows 2000 Professional (last went to Windows update at the first of the month, so it's a monthly thing for me).
I don't see how that is possible. I just recently installed 14 Windows 2000 clients and every one of them could do it right out of the box, no update is necessary.

And the other 100 or so Windows 2000 clients I have on the network can do it as well.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 07:20 PM   #29
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Windows has to be the most inconsistent OS ever, or you have some extra software that didn't come with mine.

I have to completely retype any command. Up arrow gives a blank line.

I have just re-booted to Win2kpro to check and make sure.

Last edited by fancypiper; 06-07-2004 at 07:23 PM.
 
Old 06-07-2004, 07:29 PM   #30
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I did fancypiper-
"It's been 3 1/2 weeks since I began fooling around with SuSE 9.1 Pro and it's been 1 week since I've completley given up on linux, as a whole, and since reaffirmed my loyalty back to XP."
-perhaps I should've been more clearer.
 
  


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