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06-17-2015, 07:47 PM
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When are the software cos going to realize that us Linux users will pay?
When are the software cos. going to realize that us Linux users will pay for their software?
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06-17-2015, 07:54 PM
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LQ Muse
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: A2 area Mi.
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what is a "cos" and is there a question here ?
Also please DO NOT use bright BLUE text !
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06-17-2015, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by John VV
what is a "cos" and is there a question here ?
Also please DO NOT use bright BLUE text !
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Cos. is the abbreviation for Companies. As for the color of my text, It's what I use.
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06-17-2015, 08:17 PM
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Moderator
Registered: Oct 2008
Distribution: Slackware [64]-X.{0|1|2|37|-current} ::12<=X<=15, FreeBSD_12{.0|.1}
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They don't care if you "will" pay, they seek control to the point that you "must pay on demand", which has been difficult for them to acheive on a GNU/Linux platform. They are having better luck with (!GNU)/Linux variants and even better with those that no longer call themselves Linux at all.
And I second John VV - the blue is annoying and generally inappropriate without context in LQ forums. It isn't all about you when you post in a public forum.
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06-18-2015, 01:04 AM
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LQ Muse
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: A2 area Mi.
Posts: 17,639
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abbreviation for Companies.
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"Comp."
that is what i was taught in school
just look at the trend of
"Software as Service"
monthly paid MS office
monthly paid AutoCAD
monthly paid Photoshop
monthly paid ????? fill in the blank
and it might be a
monthly paid MS windows 10 ( maybe ??? )
could you imagine trying to enforce a
monthly paid for "The Gimp"
when even on Microsoft you can install gcc and build it in MinGW for FREE
without the
monthly paid " visual studio"
-- building Gimp on Visual Studio is a pain in the rear , i do not recommend trying
Last edited by John VV; 06-18-2015 at 01:10 AM.
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06-18-2015, 05:29 AM
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Registered: Jun 2011
Location: NOVA
Distribution: Debian 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV
"Comp."
that is what i was taught in school
just look at the trend of
"Software as Service"
monthly paid MS office
monthly paid AutoCAD
monthly paid Photoshop
monthly paid ????? fill in the blank
and it might be a
monthly paid MS windows 10 ( maybe ??? )
could you imagine trying to enforce a
monthly paid for "The Gimp"
when even on Microsoft you can install gcc and build it in MinGW for FREE
without the
monthly paid " visual studio"
-- building Gimp on Visual Studio is a pain in the rear , i do not recommend trying
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That software as service is what might bring traditionally Windows and Mac software to Linux. I already pay $10 a month for CC it'd be great to install it on my Linux box.
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06-18-2015, 07:36 AM
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Location: USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV
"Comp."
that is what i was taught in school
just look at the trend of
"Software as Service"
monthly paid MS office
monthly paid AutoCAD
monthly paid Photoshop
monthly paid ????? fill in the blank
and it might be a
monthly paid MS windows 10 ( maybe ??? )
could you imagine trying to enforce a
monthly paid for "The Gimp"
when even on Microsoft you can install gcc and build it in MinGW for FREE
without the
monthly paid " visual studio"
-- building Gimp on Visual Studio is a pain in the rear , i do not recommend trying
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Please note: Comp. is the abbreviation for one company. Cos. is the abbreviation for many companies.
But gee, I'm not in English class anymore.
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06-18-2015, 09:58 AM
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Member
Registered: Jun 2015
Location: USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV
"Comp."
that is what i was taught in school
just look at the trend of
"Software as Service"
monthly paid MS office
monthly paid AutoCAD
monthly paid Photoshop
monthly paid ????? fill in the blank
and it might be a
monthly paid MS windows 10 ( maybe ??? )
could you imagine trying to enforce a
monthly paid for "The Gimp"
when even on Microsoft you can install gcc and build it in MinGW for FREE
without the
monthly paid " visual studio"
-- building Gimp on Visual Studio is a pain in the rear , i do not recommend trying
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Dictionary definition of Comp
comp
kämp/Submit
informal
noun
1.
short for:
verb
1.
play (music) as an accompaniment, especially in jazz or blues.
"if someone is comping chord changes, there are more textured harmonies"
2.
NORTH AMERICAN
give (something) away free, especially as part of a promotion.
"the management did graciously comp our wine selection"
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06-18-2015, 10:47 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: SE Tennessee, USA
Distribution: Gentoo, LFS
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Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE: RHT) was most-certainly one of the first Linux-oriented companies who rather-immediately understood this. (Which is one of the reasons why I glommed-on to their day-one IPO, and of course, am $quite$ contended that I did.)
The key thing to realize, about all operating systems (and for that matter, all software, today ...) is that people buy software for what it does.
Furthermore, they actually prefer(!) to subscribe to software ... a notion that IBM carried to an extreme "back in the day" when they rented software to you: ("IBM" = " Income By the Month.") Their reasoning was as sound in 1960 as it is today.
People Corporations really don't care what operating system (nor, too much, what hardware platform) underlies their business process: they want you to facilitate their business process, while you successfully amortize the cost of doing so across all of your clients. (Of which they are "only one of n", therefore only on-the-pole for "1/n" of the cost while reaping "100" of the benefit.)
You may-as-well simply give up on the notion of "selling 'a unit'" of software. Instead, adopt the Gillette Principle: "Give 'em the Handle, Sell 'em the Blades!"
"Do you want to buy 'a razor?'" Really? "Really, no." You want to buy: "a clean, close shave" that <<your wife | your girlfriend | that half-drunk lady next-stool to you at the bar>> ... (and, fellas, you'd damn well better know which o-n-e that is!) ... will want to stroke her fingers over, as the night begins to turn interesting . . ." That's "why you buy a razor," and Gillette knows this. So does IBM. So does Red Hat.
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06-18-2015, 10:51 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,336
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandak411
But gee, I'm not in English class anymore.
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We're an international community. Please be considerate of those who have learned English as a second language, by not making up your own abbreviations.
Note: if you're going to retort by posting to a link to anything other than an actual dictionary (Oxford or Webster's), don't bother.
Last edited by dugan; 06-18-2015 at 10:58 AM.
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06-18-2015, 10:51 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: NOVA
Distribution: Debian 12
Posts: 1,071
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sundialsvcs
Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE: RHT) was most-certainly one of the first Linux-oriented companies who rather-immediately understood this. (Which is one of the reasons why I glommed-on to their day-one IPO, and of course, am $quite$ contended that I did.)
The key thing to realize, about all operating systems (and for that matter, all software, today ...) is that people buy software for what it does.
Furthermore, they actually prefer(!) to subscribe to software ... a notion that IBM carried to an extreme "back in the day" when they rented software to you: ("IBM" = " Income By the Month.") Their reasoning was as sound in 1960 as it is today.
People Corporations really don't care what operating system (nor, too much, what hardware platform) underlies their business process: they want you to facilitate their business process, while you successfully amortize the cost of doing so across all of your clients. (Of which they are "only one of n", therefore only on-the-pole for "1/n" of the cost while reaping "100" of the benefit.)
You may-as-well simply give up on the notion of "selling 'a unit'" of software. Instead, adopt the Gillette Principle: "Give 'em the Handle, Sell 'em the Blades!"
"Do you want to buy 'a razor?'" Really? "Really, no." You want to buy: "a clean, close shave" that <<your wife | your girlfriend | that half-drunk lady next-stool to you at the bar>> ... (and, fellas, you'd damn well better know which o-n-e that is!) ... will want to stroke her fingers over, as the night begins to turn interesting . . ." That's "why you buy a razor," and Gillette knows this. So does IBM. So does Red Hat.
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Wait so IBM, RH and Gilette know the drunk lady next to me??? That explains so much
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06-18-2015, 11:10 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: London
Distribution: PCLinuxOS, Salix
Posts: 6,177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandak411
When are the software cos. going to realize that us Linux users will pay for their software?
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Speak for yourself! I shan't be paying.
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1 members found this post helpful.
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06-18-2015, 11:24 AM
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Member
Registered: Dec 2010
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 608
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidMcCann
Speak for yourself! I shan't be paying.
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+1
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06-18-2015, 01:01 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2011
Location: Upper Hale, Surrey/Hants Border, UK
Distribution: One main distro, & some smaller ones casually.
Posts: 5,654
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F.O.S.S. all the way!
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06-18-2015, 02:34 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Dec 2008
Location: Westgate-on-Sea, Kent, UK
Distribution: Debian Testing Amd64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidMcCann
Speak for yourself! I shan't be paying.
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+1. Never have, never will.
jdk
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