Hi @Pixellany, @Quakeboy02


@Pixellany,

Thanks for your answer, but, as I stressed out in my original post, I wanted to grasp what is the feeling of Linux users on this... NOT EVER to IMPOSE anything on anybody... this was my intention...

I made my point, and asked "... hey, what do you ppl think about it...? " :-)


@Quakeboy02,
Thanks for your reply, never thought of it this way, but you are right... :-)

This is not a technical issue... just as you call it " A Political Rant"... or better call it " the sharing of one opinion... "

Can I as Original poster move it to the appropriate forum, or should I count with the moderator team to do it...?

BRGDS

Alex

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Alex,

I already reported it for movement, but evidently the moderator disagreed with me or didn't want to bother or is doing something in Real Life. You can hit the report button on your own post and ask that the thread be moved.

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Hi Quakeboy02

Let's give some space to Moderator to act however he pleases...

...since, as you pointed out, You took this to his Knowledge... it is up to him to act...

BRGDS

Alex

In my opinion, the use of wine is completely legitimate. There are situations where you have no alternative. It's like quimio or radiotherapy: it doesn't need to be good, you don't have to like it, you simply accept it or die of cancer. Period. Yeah, we will probably have a better and more friendly alternative in the future, but you can't just press a "stop" button and wait for the friendly solution. Some things need to be done, and need to be done now.

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And I stated that I disagree with your idea.....

1 part disagree, 1 part "real life" (Whatever that is..... )

To be honest---rather than move this thread, I'd rather let it die quietly. Have all sides been heard? Are there any new thoughts?

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Hi Pixellany

No new thoughts on this...

I am Enlightened by all the opinions presented so far...

Thanks to All... :-)

BRGDS

Alex

I disagree with this assumption. First of all, the desire for market share is not the only thing influencing whether companies create Linux versions. The added costs of developing and maintaining extra versions needs to be factored in, for example. And unless the base market is large enough to support that added cost, there's no motivation to support the platform, whether or not there's any competition, from wine or elsewhere.

Conversely, the fact that wine supports a windows version isn't going to hold them back, if there's enough demand for a native version. And if users are able to migrate over to Linux while still using their programs, wine may even help to increase the Linux-based market share enough to justify a native version.

Third, wine can help developers in migrating their own products to a Linux platform. Wine, and particularly winelib, can be used to provide "native" support for their code, either permanently or temporarily until a full native version can be produced. Google's Picasa software is a case in point.

Finally, you're operating under the assumption that all wine users use it to run commercial software packages, like Office and CAD suites, from big companies. But there's a lot of smaller, non-commercial, and unsupported legacy software out there that will certainly never see any sort of native port. All of the programs I've ever run under wine fall into this category.

Also, check out what the wine project themselves has to say about the matter:

http://wiki.winehq.org/ImportanceOfWine
http://wiki.winehq.org/Debunking_Wine_Myths

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Rather odd the many of the linux users are part of companies that are related to the sale of software.


I think you are like a cat person. You know the one that has 20 cats. Other people think one or two is a pet and 20 is crazy.


Don't go though life with such strict rules. You should enjoy life.

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Hello all, and thanks for the fish.

What I find rather funny is that I often prefer to run applications that are available for both Windows and Linux using Wine because many Windows programs run out of the box while with Linux, well you know the pain of dependencies.

So yeah, to me Wine is totally legitimate.

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If you don't want to deal with dependencies, shouldn't you use a package manager?

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This is something which I agree with. Openoffice is the biggest office suite for Linux, which lacks a few features which MS Office has, not to mention the compatibility issues with many platforms. Even sometimes when a plain doc file is created with OpenOffice, the formatting becomes a mess when opened with MS Word, and vice versa. People need to work, how do you expect them to prioritize using a free software which fails to meet their needs over the one which actually does what they require.
I use windows and Linux both when I need to. Linux gaming is nowhere near MS gaming, for obvious reasons. WHy should a game company like "rockstar games" create free games for Linux, when they can make fortunes [and they do], by selling that same game to the windows customers. It's pretty difficult to ignore the MS effect, it's already deep-rooted in our technical culture.

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Hello,

unfortunately not all distributions have a perfect package manager and some only have a limited number of packages available. Slackware, for example, doesn't have as many binary packages as other distros, like Debian/Ubuntu or Fedora etc.

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I thought that just about every distribution except Slackware has a dependency-handling package manager. I must say that Fedora's "yum" is my favorite, apt-get is OK but has a few little things about it that I don't like and would do differently.

And Fedora (with rpmfusion repo added) has almost everything I need.

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On average, installing SW in Linux is faster and easier than on Windows. Both systems have "dependencies"---they are just handled differently.

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I agree that at first I thought that installing software in Linux was hard, but I got used to it and it seems easier than Windows.

If your package manager has it, installing software couldn't get simpler!

Also I find the UI of Linux software more pleasant, probably because it's made by the people that use it.

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