Mouse problem with Xorg 6.9.0

10xOXR · 10-15-2005, 08:18 AM

Hello all,

I have a Logitech MX700 Wireless Optical Mouse and am currently running PCLinuxOS.

I have had no problems with the mouse or its buttons until I upgraded all packages in Synaptic Package Manager with one of them being Xorg moving from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0

Whenever I now start the machine or restart the X Server, the mouse doesn't move at all until I run the Control Centre (Drakconf) and tell it to use any available USB or PS/2 mouse - everything's fine from then on.

I have made no such update to my Laptop (same distro and version) so comapred the two xorg.conf files. No changes have been made to the mouse entry, everything is as it was.

Code:

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse1"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7"
EndSection

I'm getting fairly tired of having to manually get the mouse going of a morning, any thoughts on what could be wrong?

TIA

10x...

Emerson · 10-16-2005, 06:14 AM

Look into /dev to see available mouse devices and edit xorg.conf accordingly. For instance, mine works great with /dev/psaux.

10xOXR · 10-19-2005, 07:57 AM

Managed to refine the problem a bit now so stay with me here...

Once the system has started up and logged me in the mouse does not move - it just sits there in the middle of the screen. However, if I move the mouse to the top right of the screen (cursor still stays in the middle, doesn't move) and then let DrakConf detect it, the cursor suddenly appears in the top right!

I've tried every single possible entry for Device in xorg.conf (/dev/input/mice, /dev/usbmouse, etc) and all will do exactly the same thing. They'll stay put until I detect the mouse and then the cursor will jump to where I've moved the mouse.

I'm getting tired of this....

Perhaps I should try to go back to Xorg 6.8.2 if Synaptic will let me...

Any thoughts?

10x...

Emerson · 10-19-2005, 08:16 AM

Next thing to look at is mouse protocol. Also make sure you edit right section, there may be more than one for mouse (Mouse0, Mouse1, etc.)

10xOXR · 10-19-2005, 08:41 AM

Thanks for the reply mate,

I've edited everything that I can to no avail. Every time I make a change nothing will happen, and when I let DrakConf autodetect everything it always goes back to the folowing:

Code:

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse1"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7"
EndSection

There is only one mouse referred to in xorg.conf and it's Mouse1

Code:

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    Screen "screen1"
EndSection

The Protocol makes no difference when I change it, and ExplorerPS/2 has what it's always been , even before the problem began.

nelamvr6 · 10-19-2005, 09:03 AM

You say it's cordless, right?

Could be a hardware problem and not software related. Perhaps the system isn't getting any data from the mouse until there's movement of the mouse and therefore a signal sent between the mouse and it's base station.

Is it plugged into the USB port or the PS2 port? I have had some systems that have issues with USB mice or keyboards on startup.

Just a thought.

Emerson · 10-19-2005, 09:14 AM

Look at your Xorg.0.log, there may be some clues. Also there may be some output to console, my Gentoo reports on first and twelfth.

10xOXR · 10-21-2005, 09:40 AM

If I quit X after getting the mouse going, it still works in the console....

There are no error messages that I can see in the Xorg log files.

There is also no hardware failure with the mouse itself as it works perfectly on a Windows machine.

Stuck now...

suslik · 10-26-2005, 12:39 AM

Try
/dev/input/mice
if you have it. It's a collection of signals from ALL mic-like devices.

10xOXR · 10-26-2005, 05:24 AM

I have no idea now.

/dev/input/mice does work - but, again, only when I use drakconf to detect the mouse after startup. It makes no difference at all what's in xorg.conf, until I detect the mouse nothing happens.

This only started happening once I upgraded to Xorg 6.9.0 CVS. Anyone got any ideas how to get Synaptic to let me downgrade to 6.8.2 again? Seeing as this problem seems impossible to resolve.

I'm been wondering if it's a problem with the mouse being detected during startup, but it does will tell me the mouse's battery level and what channel it's operating on before I've used drakconf to get it moving... possibly discounting that option.

It must be either Xorg or something else that was upgraded by Synaptic at the same time as the mouse will work properly off the bat if I boot using the PCLinuxOS (or any other) LiveCD.

Bugger it, I might just go and get Gentoo again.... knew where I stood with that one! LOL

Thanks again,

10x...

Emerson · 10-26-2005, 06:50 AM

No need to install Linux again. I'm sure your distro has some CLI tool you can use to remove your 6.9.0 so you can install stable version again.

10xOXR · 10-26-2005, 07:02 AM

Any suggestions on what I could use then?

10x...

Emerson · 10-26-2005, 08:22 AM

Little googling brought up this:

Quote:

PCLinuxOS is an English only live CD initially based on Mandrake Linux that runs entirely from a bootable CD. Data on the CD is uncompressed on the fly, allowing up to 2GB of programs on one CD including a complete X server, KDE desktop, OpenOffice.org and many more applications all ready to use. In addition to the live CD, you can also install PCLinuxOS to your hard drive with an easy-to-use livecd-installer. Additional applications can be added or removed from your hard drive using a friendly apt-get front end via Synaptic.

Do 'man apt-get' to see how it works.

TenEighty · 11-12-2005, 09:11 PM

i have the same mouse problem. Slackware 10.0, usb optical wheel mouse (corded), plugged into a usb port. It used to work perfectly, without hot plug. Long time ago, i enabled hot plug, still fine. Recently, i enabled acpi, which involved a few things, and it was still okay, but about the same time I had trouble with display, and fixing that broke the mouse. I don't have any idea how.

X starts fine, no complaints, but the cursor sits dead center of the screen. Won't move, buttons don't respond. It will start working if I restart hotplug: '/etc/rc.d/rc.hotplug restart' if I use 'start' instead of 'restart', it doesn't work. I've looked at my xorg.conf file, changed things back and forth, didn't help. For one thing, i don't know why hotplug should be involved, since the stupid thing worked before I enabled hotplug.

FYI, in my research, i have found in the hotplug README, that "coldplug" usb devices, like mice, may not be able to be activated at boot time because the system isn't fully initiallized when the device is first detected. Some script has to RESCAN the device later on in the startup to get the bastard to work, and i think that's what is happening, or not happening rather. The file also says mice to be used with X11 cannot be hotplugged, though I may have read something contradictory to this... anyway, some modules need to be preloaded, perhaps meaning that the drivers are loaded and the mouse is working by other means, and not by hotplug, even the the HCL at Linuxquestions states that the mouse works with hotplug. And it says 'you should probably use static linking for the "hid", "keybdev" (and/or "mousedev"), "input", "usbcore", and USB Host Controller modules' which is beyond me at this point.

plenty of information that so far, doesn't fix anything, except that i added '/etc/rc.d/rc.hotplug restart' to rc.local, which is a total band aid, if it works.