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Old 02-19-2011, 09:38 PM   #1
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K3B Clone


I have tried to burn a clone in K3B and after doing that it works on the computer but having tried it on two cd players it was not able to read the disk.

Anyone had similar problems?
 
Old 02-20-2011, 05:39 AM   #2
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I'm not sure what you mean by "clone", but did you set K3B to finalize the disc? Many dedicated CD players won't read an audio CD unless it is finalized.
 
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:55 AM   #3
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Yes it is a fact that when you rip a cd and burn it it needs to be finalized, however when making a clone I did not see any option to finalize it. Did I miss something?

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I'm not sure what you mean by "clone", but did you set K3B to finalize the disc? Many dedicated CD players won't read an audio CD unless it is finalized.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 01:01 PM   #4
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By clone, I am assuming that you mean an exact copy. What did you clone? Some formats are not recognized by stand-a-lone players. Something recorded in PAL, for example, will not play on a US region player, but something like mplayer would have no trouble with.
 
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:09 PM   #5
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I simply cloned an audio cd to use in my car. K3b had an option for normalcopy and clone. What clone does is to create an image of the source and copy it as a single image on the blank disk, I had heard that this is a better way for and audio cd as bit by bit is copied rather than ripped. Clone is suppose to sound exactly the same as original.

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By clone, I am assuming that you mean an exact copy. What did you clone? Some formats are not recognized by stand-a-lone players. Something recorded in PAL, for example, will not play on a US region player, but something like mplayer would have no trouble with.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 04:51 PM   #6
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I found myself that K3B is not working properly sometimes. It does not matter which mode you're in. CD is just unreadable.
Therefore I prefer to use GNOME Baker or Nero. Unfortunately, it means no KDE when using them. Same CD-RW with same iso image burnt by K3B and Baker can give you different results on same hardware. And out of those 3, Nero gives the best results, to be honest. Though, it is not FOSS.
 
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:42 PM   #7
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Thank you for that feedback. It sure is helpful. I use the Plextor burner and always have since last 15 years.With the Plextool Professional software I never had any issues, the software and burner takes into consideration the offset as well and the resultant copy is near identical as long as good media is used. I guess I have to go back to it as I hate wasting time and disks on a software that is erratic.

I had heard great things about K3B but no worries I will get by with my trusted Plextor.

Thanks again to all who responded.


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I found myself that K3B is not working properly sometimes. It does not matter which mode you're in. CD is just unreadable.
Therefore I prefer to use GNOME Baker or Nero. Unfortunately, it means no KDE when using them. Same CD-RW with same iso image burnt by K3B and Baker can give you different results on same hardware. And out of those 3, Nero gives the best results, to be honest. Though, it is not FOSS.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 10:23 PM   #8
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Did you try playing w/ the burn speed? On some media (specially cheaper
varieties) I found that if I burnt them at the burners full capacity the
result was only usable on the machine that bunt the disk ... if I went
and forced a burn at 4x it worked fine elsewhere.


Cheers,
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:25 PM   #9
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I always burn my audio disks at 4x never higher. I know this fact from very long time ago probably more than a decade.


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Did you try playing w/ the burn speed? On some media (specially cheaper
varieties) I found that if I burnt them at the burners full capacity the
result was only usable on the machine that bunt the disk ... if I went
and forced a burn at 4x it worked fine elsewhere.


Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 02-21-2011, 11:15 AM   #10
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K3b is the graphical front end to a bunch of command line programs. And I very much doubt that cdrecord / wodim are the cause of your troubles.

Suggestion: Burn another CD with copy audio and do a md5sum on both ... not to mention do a check by your very own ears ... anything missing in the audio copy?
 
Old 02-21-2011, 08:41 PM   #11
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I will check it out, thanks!

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Suggestion: Burn another CD with copy audio and do a md5sum on both ... not to mention do a check by your very own ears ... anything missing in the audio copy?
 
  


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