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Youtube-dl is now working for me, again. I'm not sure when the problem disappeared, but it was probably this morning perhaps after an update and reboot (my habit is to that every couple of days or so).
However, I've also been having problems with my third-party e-mail client too (in this case the version used by Fedora 37 kde). I've been able to get to email (AOL) using the browser, but not Thunderbird. I'm not sure where the problem might be. This one has been hard to track down.
Hmmmmm...interesting idea! I could just find the simplest distro that runs Python 3.7.
Why? All of the python scripts/programs that you want to use are going to be updated to run in python3.10/11
Python changes all the time with no regard for backwards compatibility. So do all of the python modules. Qt5, Qt6, gobject, webengine, ect.
Right now you should be using at least python 3.10. Python2 was EOL a good while back. If there is any software that still uses python2 then leave it.
If you have a python script that will only run in python 3.5 for example. Then update it, so that it is modern, and will run using python3.10, or use something else.
Python scripts go bad a lot quicker than a c or c++ source code.
youtube-dl is not being maintained. Youtube changes all the time. If you have a 3 month old version of yt-dlp or youtube-dl, it likely won't work.
I recommend you to download and install your own Python, as you don't like OS upgrades. That's what I did a couple weeks ago when I noted that youtube-dl stopped working with youtube. The advantage is that now it works with 100% speed, instead providing 40-80kbs.
Coltson, Python is already installed on my system (Dell Inspiron 5000, F37 KDE). In fact, I think I might have seen (many uncertainties here) that Python is the source of the problem. Sorry I can't be more specific ATM. And I don't mind OS upgrades. It appears to be Discover (or upgrades via Discover) that caused the problem, somehow.
BTW, I'm not seeing this problem on my HP laptop.
Why? All of the python scripts/programs that you want to use are going to be updated to run in python3.10/11
Python changes all the time with no regard for backwards compatibility. So do all of the python modules. Qt5, Qt6, gobject, webengine, ect.
Right now you should be using at least python 3.10. Python2 was EOL a good while back. If there is any software that still uses python2 then leave it.
If you have a python script that will only run in python 3.5 for example. Then update it, so that it is modern, and will run using python3.10, or use something else.
Python scripts go bad a lot quicker than a c or c++ source code.
youtube-dl is not being maintained. Youtube changes all the time. If you have a 3 month old version of yt-dlp or youtube-dl, it likely won't work.
Update your box. That is the solution.
Trouble is, my OS is long past EOL, and at this point, the only way to update is to do a fresh install...which is probably what I'll have to do. Guess I'll have to get a USB HDD or something so I can back-up my data.....
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Originally Posted by coltson
I recommend you to download and install your own Python, as you don't like OS upgrades. That's what I did a couple weeks ago when I noted that youtube-dl stopped working with youtube. The advantage is that now it works with 100% speed, instead providing 40-80kbs.
If I could figure out how to do that, that'd be the ticket. Then again...my old OS probably doesn't have the proper dependencies......
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbuckley2004
Coltson, Python is already installed on my system (Dell Inspiron 5000, F37 KDE). In fact, I think I might have seen (many uncertainties here) that Python is the source of the problem. Sorry I can't be more specific ATM. And I don't mind OS upgrades. It appears to be Discover (or upgrades via Discover) that caused the problem, somehow.
BTW, I'm not seeing this problem on my HP laptop.
My problem is that I could only get Python to upgrade to 3.5, because the repos for my old OS are no longer maintained, and I'd have to do a fresh install of the newer version of the OS (BunsenLabs)... Looks like I'm at a dead end. So close...and yet so far!
Hmm.. Perhaps installing docker then pulling down the dependencies within a container will help? I inherited a lot of old machines running old linux that expired AGES ago that I threw containers on to solve these kinds of issues.
But honestly - getting your OS upgraded is the way out of this. You're just going to keep running into more and more problems keeping an expired version around. Today its youtube-whatever, tomorrow its kerneld.
Last edited by szboardstretcher; 04-05-2023 at 08:43 PM.
Trouble is, my OS is long past EOL, and at this point, the only way to update is to do a fresh install...which is probably what I'll have to do. Guess I'll have to get a USB HDD or something so I can back-up my data.....
Buy a new SSD and swap the drives over - then you can do a fresh install without affecting your previous setup, and afterwards copy the data you want from the old drive.
However, both Youtube-DL and yt-dlp have two versions - one which uses an already installed Python, and one which bundles its own Python...
Hmm.. Perhaps installing docker then pulling down the dependencies within a container will help? I inherited a lot of old machines running old linux that expired AGES ago that I threw containers on to solve these kinds of issues.
But honestly - getting your OS upgraded is the way out of this. You're just going to keep running into more and more problems keeping an expired version around. Today its youtube-whatever, tomorrow its kerneld.
Hehyepyepyep...I'm beginning to think that just doing a fresh install would be no more trouble than trying a million work-arounds.
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Originally Posted by boughtonp
Buy a new SSD and swap the drives over - then you can do a fresh install without affecting your previous setup, and afterwards copy the data you want from the old drive.
However, both Youtube-DL and yt-dlp have two versions - one which uses an already installed Python, and one which bundles its own Python...
Oooo! The SSD thing is a great idea! I may just do that.
Any idea where I find the yt-dlp with it's own Python, that can be simply installed (like with 'curl') by a dummy?
Any idea where I find the yt-dlp with it's own Python, that can be simply installed (like with 'curl') by a dummy?
Instead of the 2-3MB file, it's the >20MB file - check the readme "Release Files" section - and pick the link that includes "Linux" and "standalone" and matches your architecture (probably x64, unless you've got an arm device).
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Originally Posted by Sumguy
Tried it. Got the same errors I got with my previous yt-dlp install, which I assume is due to my outdated Python....
Do you mean the "unable to extract uploader id" - that might be video/URL specific - test with some different ones?
Also, I notice yt-dlp's differences in default behaviour has some new compat options - maybe newer ones are depending on newer Python functionality, so see if adding "--compat-options 2021" or "--compat-options youtube-dl,2021" makes a difference?
Otherwise, what's the error, and which of the links did you try? (you probably want the second one in Teckk's post).
Coltson, Python is already installed on my system (Dell Inspiron 5000, F37 KDE). In fact, I think I might have seen (many uncertainties here) that Python is the source of the problem. Sorry I can't be more specific ATM. And I don't mind OS upgrades. It appears to be Discover (or upgrades via Discover) that caused the problem, somehow.
BTW, I'm not seeing this problem on my HP laptop.
Hi. Actually, I was thinking into Sumguy when I did my post, sorry for the confusion
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Originally Posted by Sumguy
If I could figure out how to do that, that'd be the ticket. Then again...my old OS probably doesn't have the proper dependencies......
Yes, that's the difficult. While Python can be build without any special dependency, building it that way will result in a Python without OpenSSL, which means no yt-dlp.
So for running yt-dlp, one needs to build Python with ssl suport activated, which means one needs to install OpenSSL devel package (or whatever your distro name it) or to build it from the source before building Python.
However, I would try this yt-dlp with Python before going my route.
Instead of the 2-3MB file, it's the >20MB file - check the readme "Release Files" section - and pick the link that includes "Linux" and "standalone" and matches your architecture (probably x64, unless you've got an arm device).
Do you mean the "unable to extract uploader id" - that might be video/URL specific - test with some different ones?
Also, I notice yt-dlp's differences in default behaviour has some new compat options - maybe newer ones are depending on newer Python functionality, so see if adding "--compat-options 2021" or "--compat-options youtube-dl,2021" makes a difference?
Otherwise, what's the error, and which of the links did you try? (you probably want the second one in Teckk's post).
Here are the errors I'm getting with yt-dlp:
Code:
$ yt-dlp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2hXBf1DakE
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/runpy.py", line 193, in _run_module_as_main
"__main__", mod_spec)
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/runpy.py", line 85, in _run_code
exec(code, run_globals)
File "/usr/local/bin/yt-dlp/__main__.py", line 14, in <module>
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 969, in _find_and_load
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 954, in _find_and_load_unlocked
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 896, in _find_spec
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 1147, in find_spec
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 1123, in _get_spec
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 1104, in _legacy_get_spec
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 444, in spec_from_loader
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 541, in spec_from_file_location
File "/usr/local/bin/yt-dlp/yt_dlp/__init__.py", line 5
f'You are using an unsupported version of Python. Only Python versions 3.7 and above are supported by yt-dlp') # noqa: F541
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
(I like how they slip that "f'you" in there... I think they're trying to tell me something!)
Can't you get Python 3.7 or above on BunsenLabs? You can have Python 2 & 3 installed.
You can...but not on my long out-of-date iteration for which the repositories are no longer being updated. I'm trying to avoid having to do a frsh install of the latest version of Bunsen...but I believe that that is my only option.
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I think they're trying to tell me something!)
