I just did a fresh install of Fedora Core 1 and wanted to install KDE 3.2 on my system but I have no idea how this is done?

Can someone please help me a new guy out?

I installed apt-get (but have no idea how to use it) and I think Fedora comes with Yum (also never used it) but I am not sure if they will find KDE 3.2.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

You would be much better off using the package installation software that came with fedora. I read about someone who once installed apt-get on redhat, and he/she described it as their "worst linux mistake ever". Yum, or whatever Fedora uses, should be able to get and install the packages relatively easy for you.

You can also get the kde packages and rpms from their website. If you're going to take the source/rpm route, it's safe to say that you can expect a lot of hell.

1 - Where or how do I use the package installation software?

2 - How do I use YUM to install this?

Sorry but I am very new and dont really know how to run my way through linux that well.

Thanks for any info

I went the source route with slackware installing kde 3.2.. worked great. It isn't that hard, I downloaded kde-libs, kde-base, and the alsa tars, untarred them. Then I compiled ('./configure', 'make', 'make install' as root) kde-libs and alsa at the same time. That took a day, so I went to sleep, woke up and compiled kde-base. Then I followed the post-installation directions on the kde website. When I use rpms and such, I seem to have more troubles than with source. :P

man...I have no idea what you just said - all this is new to me...

I am justr so lost

Okay, if you want to go the source route (Source is the code that the program is written in. You then build the entire program from the ground up on your computer, with the compiler), go to kde's website, and download the tarball. Untar it, then cd to the directory, and type "./configure", then "make", and then "make install". You will need to download the kde-lbis and the kde-base, and perform this process for each package.

I've never used yum, so I really can't help you there. Maybe a Fedora user can help out there.

Yea... i just got KDE 3.2.2 installed from source on Slackware 9.1 myself. Just do what they are saying... go to www.kde.org click Stable Version and then download the files there. You don't need them all those. Don't download kde-i8n-3.2.2... all it does is install other languages. You might run into problems with some of the packages like I did. Don't worry if you can't get some of them installed... they're just extras really. The only ones you really need are arts, kdelibs, and kdebase.

Ok - sorry guys but I have to take this all in baby steps...

I go to KDE home page and download those 3 files...then what?

Do I exit the GUI and login as root in terminal or can I stay KDE and just run terminal with KDE in background?

Then

what is the command I need to extract the files and then the command I need to install the files?

Thanks again - sorry - this is all so new to me.

ok I am at this URL - correct me if this is the wrong URL

ftp://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/1/RPMS.stable/

and I should install only these three from the above listed URL?

arts-devel-1.2.2-2.1.1.kde.i386.rpm

kdelibs-3.2.2-7.0.1.kde.i386.rpm

kdebase-3.2.2-6.0.1.kde.i386.rpm

Lets say those are the only 3 I need, I save them to disk, then what?

Do I need to log out of GUI or can KDE remain running in the background?

What are the commands I need to install?

Thanks

I have run the route ..

First getting the rpm is the safe way of doing it. Compiling is for birds.

www.kde.org is the right place .. after some snooping around you have to take chances now.
first pick the download mirror ..
Typically the are a billion rpm's under hte Fedora directory.
Pick kde*base* .. I think that's the only one you need for the ..

If you double click in Konqueror, it will open the downloaded file for intsallation ..
I have done that and I can never find what Konqueror does with the rpms
it installs .. .. I think there is a problem with that part in Konqueror.

I think the safer way to do is to do step by step.

download the rpm .. with rpm extension

run
rpm -i "filename"
and it will pull out the files from the "rpm archive"
it will install a new package ..

if you are upgrading you should use -U flag instead of -i

Frankly I am going to do the same today and am pretty sure it will work.

hope it works for you ..


BTW I tried it and I have to add that this is yet incom complete
rpm -U comes back with

kdelibs >= 6:3.2.2 is needed by kdebase-3.2.2-0.1
libkmdi.so.1 is needed by kdebase-3.2.2-0.1
libkresources.so.1 is needed by kdebase-3.2.2-0.1
libkwalletclient.so.1 is needed by kdebase-3.2.2-0.1
redhat-artwork >= 0.92 is needed by kdebase-3.2.2-0.1

so I need to downaload them and then try on .. .

Folks if I said it wrongly .. please correct it before our computers go "puufff" ..

Well those 3 things are all you NEED. It will run just fine with only those 3 but you won't have all the little extras like you will if you install all of them. I can't really help you with RPMs though cause I'm on Slackware. It doesn't use RPMs. I had to compile mine from source because I couldn't find a binary file for Slackware. If you use RPMs you won't be doing a source you'll be doing a binary. It'll save you time though... compiling takes a long time.

I downloaded the file you recommended called kdebase-3.2.2-0.1.src.rpm
I then opened a terminal window and logged in as root and cd to where the file was downloaded to.

I typed this:

nothing seemed to have hapened - no error, but nothing telling me that it worked. What did I do wrong?

If rpms install correctly, they won't say anything at all. So chances are the rpm installed correctly. You could also use -v for verbose.

I am trying this and this darned thing is not documented correctly.

Fedora Core 2 include 3.2.2 Kde tools.

It appears to me that 3.2.2 is not compatible with Fedora 1 core and the libararies will conflict endlesslessy.
Fedora Core 2 is linux kernel 2.6 (compared to 2.4 for fedora 1) .. so much has changed that 3.2.2 probably
is not backward compabitle anyways ...

I am going to download Core 2, I am told it's risky to use .. it's almost alpha version (Core 1 is no better than beta)

so you are saying that if I am using FC1, I can upgrade KDE?