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Old 04-16-2022, 07:45 PM   #1
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Flashplayer: Fully dead? Sandboxing?


I've got quite a lot of resources for teaching in Flashplayer. Some are online, some are .swf files.

Flashplayer isn't secure. Adobe have dropped support. I guess all of this legacy software is lost?

What about running an isolated container with just Flashplayer? Surely someone has tried and set this up? There's quite a lot of websites out there still using this trash.
 
Old 04-16-2022, 07:54 PM   #2
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I was going to say something about running the Windows Flash player in WINE, but I looked again and it looks like that's not really an option either.

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Old 04-16-2022, 08:39 PM   #3
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I think it's safe to say that, unless you can track down an old copy of Flashplayer somewhere, it's pretty much dead.

If you can find a Win8 installation disk somewhere, that might work, at least long enough save/record your work to some other media.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...1-b4a140734b8a

Win8 runs very nicely in VirtualBox.
 
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Old 04-17-2022, 08:00 AM   #4
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I don’t think flashplayer will start unless date year is set before 2021. Once flashplayer starts can change date back.
 
Old 04-18-2022, 02:15 AM   #5
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I've got quite a lot of resources for teaching in Flashplayer. Some are online, some are .swf files.

Flashplayer isn't secure. Adobe have dropped support. I guess all of this legacy software is lost?

What about running an isolated container with just Flashplayer? Surely someone has tried and set this up? There's quite a lot of websites out there still using this trash.
There's a standalone package for Linux.
I use it on my Arch system, if you have a good look at this PKGBUILD you can figure out how to get it working on (almost) any system.
I launch it with this command:
Code:
firejail --allusers --net=none /usr/bin/flashplayer
and it launches & plays files alright, no date changes.
 
Old 04-18-2022, 09:21 AM   #6
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You could look into a conversion tool to extract the data into a more secure and supported format.
https://community.openfl.org/t/using...l5-format/6584
 
Old 04-18-2022, 09:53 AM   #7
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Check out "haxe.org." This cross-platform programming tool still supports Flash as a target, and contains links to several third-party Flash player plugins.

Thanks to Haxe, I haven't written JavaScript "by hand" in a very long time now ...
 
Old 04-18-2022, 06:56 PM   #8
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Older Linux FlashPlayer binaries will still run fine; anything prior to very early Flash v32 is OK to use. Mid-v32 and onwards, Adobe went out of their way to build a "time-bomb" into the script; with any of these builds, they're basically set to "self-destruct" & quit working as of Jan 1st, 2021.

These binaries can be run independently of the browser.....but you need to ensure you obtain the 'standalone' variety. The FlashPlayer that used to be supplied for running with Mozilla builds doesn't work in quite the same way.....and Google's PepperFlash was never supplied as a 'standalone', period.

These specific FlashPlayers will run happily outside the browser.....thus, no need to take OTT security precautions, because Flash itself never had an internet connection.

The only difference between the Windows & Linux versions is that you can click the Windows variety and it opens to a GUI; you then select the requisite file from the menu. With the Linux variety, just drag'n'drop your file onto the FlashPlayer binary, and it fires right up.....


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Old 04-19-2022, 11:22 AM   #9
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The answer is to convert the files to a modern format while facilities to do it are still available. A search revealed several suggestions and some free on-line services.
 
Old 04-19-2022, 01:52 PM   #10
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Older Linux FlashPlayer binaries will still run fine; anything prior to very early Flash v32 is OK to use.
I can confirm that flashplayer-standalone has been on 32,0,0,465 since I installed it.

Yeah, it might stop working any time - but otoh it has worked for years now.

I certainly wouldn't want to rely on important data in that format.

BTW, I believe there's a project that strives to keep flash media alive, through archiving them & providing a web-based player, can't remember right now, blue something maybe?

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These binaries can be run independently of the browser.....but you need to ensure you obtain the 'standalone' variety.
As I pointed out previously, there's a shell script that contains all the pertinent info.

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These specific FlashPlayers will run happily outside the browser.....thus, no need to take OTT security precautions, because Flash itself never had an internet connection.
I believe it's disabled by default, but even the standalone versions were designed to interact over the www. Anyhow, better to run it with firejail.
 
Old 04-19-2022, 08:31 PM   #11
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BTW, I believe there's a project that strives to keep flash media alive, through archiving them & providing a web-based player, can't remember right now, blue something maybe?
Yeah; BlueMaxima's 'Flashpoint'. Very neat project, actually. Rockedge, our Admin, and I between us got it running and built packages for the Puppy Linux community...

https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/

One peculiarity is that for some weird reason it demands a bang up-to-date version of PHP?

Mike.
 
  


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