rather than waste time dinking with it, i decided to just reinstall the os (since i have probably done it at least 5 times now,,, hahahaha ) works like a champ now !
man i have got to go buy a linux book and soon
far different world than windoz (thank GOD )
Thanks MUCHO for all of your help !
now to go figure out why apache didn't start on my other box... yep it never ends