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Old 02-16-2016, 04:38 PM   #16
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You're talking about the partitions of hydrurga, not mine
I'm sorry Sheldon I thought they were your partitions.

Have you been able to boot into Linux Lite?
 
Old 02-16-2016, 04:49 PM   #17
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You want guidance?

Pull the ssd drive with windows on it out of your computer.
Go to the store and buy another hard drive.
Install it in your laptop. Install Linux Lite on that drive.

Or. You can install Linux Lite onto a pendrive like I did because the laptop I posted with in my intro to Linux Lite forums was bought with out a hard drive and operating system in it. So I installed Linux Lite on a pendrive instead to test out whether my touchscreen would work in it.

https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/i...g3875/#msg3875
 
Old 02-16-2016, 05:05 PM   #18
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It's fairly easy to dissemble a laptop. I've done it a few times.
http://www.tekmoz.com/laptop-repair-...mble-a-laptop/

Desktop's are easier to work with.

http://www.newegg.com/Internal-SSDs/...-636?Tid=11693
http://www.microcenter.com/search/se...t=internal+ssd
 
Old 02-16-2016, 05:08 PM   #19
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Have you been able to boot into Linux Lite?
Nope. This is what happens when I plug in my USB:
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Ok, so the way I'm gonna do the installation is with a USB stick. I've already burned it with the installation files, through Unetbootin. Then I plug it in the laptop, turn it on and press F9, which is the key for the Boot manager in my computer. On the first screen, "Boot manager", I select "Boot from EFI file". On the next screen, "File explorer", I select the name of my USB stick. And then another screen appears with the names of the folders inside the USB, like this:
<.disk>
<casper>
<isolinux>
<preseed>
<System Volume Information>
As fas as I know, I don't need to choose a specific folder, those are the result of the burning. However, for any option that I select on that screen, I'm taken to the next screen where there are two options:
<.>
<..>
The first one refreshes the page, the second one takes me to the prior screen. So there's a loop here that doesn't take me any further.
So my laptop explores the files instead of booting.

And about setting the priorities and putting USB first, I've already done that:
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4. Regarding to my previous problem with the folders in the USB, I've explored the BIOS and changed the "UEFI Boot Order"; now I have "USB Diskette on Key/USB Hard Disk" and "USB CD/DVD ROM Drive" on top, and "OS boot Manager" at the bottom. But then I save and restart and have the same problem. It explores the files but doesn't boot.
I can provide screenshots/photos if needed.

The post where I say exactly the points where I'm stuck at the moment is this:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...6/#post5500121
 
Old 02-16-2016, 05:10 PM   #20
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It's fairly easy to dissemble a laptop. I've done it a few times.
Definitely beyond my skills!

Last edited by Sheldon1; 02-18-2016 at 09:36 AM.
 
Old 02-16-2016, 05:17 PM   #21
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Nope. This is what happens when I plug in my USB:


So my laptop explores the files instead of booting.

And about setting the priorities and putting USB first, I've already done that:

I can provide screenshots/photos if needed.

The post where I say exactly the points where I'm stuck at the moment is this:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...6/#post5500121
If you have already change the boot order in the BIOS to boot to USB first and it's not booting into your Linux Lite than I'd think the only other thing your could do is replace the hard drive.

The other alternative would be to try booting to a Live Linux Lite CD/DVD or start thinking about deleting Windows 10:- (not sure if you want to do that)

I have the Pheonix BIOS on my laptop. The newer laptop's come with the new UEFI Click Bios.
What BIOS do you have on that HP?

Last edited by Ztcoracat; 02-16-2016 at 05:21 PM.
 
Old 02-16-2016, 05:28 PM   #22
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I haven't ran Windows in 5 years; sorry.

From what I do remember about my Windows 7 on my Sony Vaio the machine prompted me to click on "make recovery disc's" and it started the process. It took about 5 disks to create the Recovery.

If you want to install Linux alongeside Windows 10 you will most likely have to shrink the Windows partition.
I think that's in disc management but don't quote me on that.
 
Old 02-16-2016, 05:47 PM   #23
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If you have already change the boot order in the BIOS to boot to USB first and it's not booting into your Linux Lite than I'd think the only other thing your could do is replace the hard drive.
But it's 100% new and unused...

Also, when you say "hard drive", you mean SSD or HDD?
There is a 128 GB SSD where Windows is installed, and then there is a 1 TB HDD with two partitions: one for data and one for recovery. I attach a photo.

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What BIOS do you have on that HP? If your not sure take a picture of your BIOS.
I attach a photo of the Main menu. I've taken photos of all the other "pages" in case they're needed.
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:51 PM   #24
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But it's 100% new and unused...

Also, when you say "hard drive", you mean SSD or HDD?
There is a 128 GB SSD where Windows is installed, and then there is a 1 TB HDD with two partitions: one for data and one for recovery. I attach a photo.


I attach a photo of the Main menu. I've taken photos of all the other "pages" in case they're needed.
Yes I mean SSD.

You have the INSYDEH20 BIOS. That's what I have on my Vaio.

Looks like your going to have to shrink your Windows partition if you want to keep it in order to make room for your Linux install.

If you could post the other pics of the BIOS so we can see the options.
 
Old 02-17-2016, 08:07 AM   #25
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You have the INSYDEH20 BIOS. That's what I have on my Vaio.
Ok. But it's still UEFI, no? At least Windows seems to be UEFI.

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Looks like your going to have to shrink your Windows partition if you want to keep it in order to make room for your Linux install.
Ok. Hence my question:
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The partitioning is automatically done along with the installation process, no?
Will it get another letter, say, C: for Windows and D: for Linux?
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If you could post the other pics of the BIOS so we can see the options.
Sure.
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Old 02-17-2016, 08:25 AM   #26
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And these are the current options for boot order:
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Old 02-17-2016, 08:56 AM   #27
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And these are the pics from when I boot with the USB in it (ELE's is the name of my USB stick).
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:05 AM   #28
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Based on what you posted in post #19, I don't think your flash drive you created with unetbootin worked. As pointed out above, it doesn't look like a standard Ubuntu type iso. System Volume Information won't be there, that's something usually shown when accessing a windows partition. The other directories are the ones usually when an Ubuntu derivative like Linux Lite is mounted and accessed through a file manager but would absolutely NOT be seen when booting. Since you are afraid to test the flash drive on another computer, everything here is going to be guess work.

Hitting the F9 key for the boot manager would seem to me to only access boot files already on the computer in your EFI partition and I would not expect you would need that if you set the flash to first boot priority in the BIOS.
 
Old 02-17-2016, 09:31 AM   #29
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I don't think your flash drive you created with unetbootin worked. As pointed out above, it doesn't look like a standard Ubuntu type iso. System Volume Information won't be there, that's something usually shown when accessing a windows partition. The other directories are the ones usually when an Ubuntu derivative like Linux Lite is mounted and accessed through a file manager but would absolutely NOT be seen when booting.
The pic attached is the content of the USB stick when explored with Windows Explorer. If it's not correct I can burn it again. I can also burn a dvd (the laptop has an optical unit) if you advise me to.

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Since you are afraid to test the flash drive on another computer, everything here is going to be guess work.
If you think it's necessary, I can try it.

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Hitting the F9 key for the boot manager would seem to me to only access boot files already on the computer in your EFI partition and I would not expect you would need that if you set the flash to first boot priority in the BIOS.
Nope, as I've said before, when I just plug it and then turn the computer on, it automatically boots Windows.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:00 AM   #30
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I see from one of your screen-shots that you have secure boot enabled and I'm not sure that Linux Lite supports that (Mint does). Look at this
https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorial...i-secure-boot/

Once you've sorted that out, you can think about the sdd. As you said, you have
c: 118 GB Windows. Linux calls that /dev/sda1
d: 914 GB empty. That's /dev/sda2
e: 29 GB recovery. That's /dev/sda3

If you want to keep Windows,
1. Leave the third partition as it is, rather than making a recovery disk. You can spare 29 GB!
2. The free space on the Windows one can be used for data if you need any Windows programs, although you might shrink it a bit using gparted on your Linux installer.
3. With gparted, expand the second partition if you shrank the first. Format it as an extended partition. You can then partition that as if it were a complete disk. Make two logical partitions inside it:
/dev/sda5 [no mistake: logical partitions start at 5]. 20 GB for the Linux root filing system.
/dev/sda6. The rest for /home, where your data will go.
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
 
  


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