I have a program that I want to run and I need WINE to do it. I'm just curious if there are other programs I should install first before installing WINE.



Thanks.


Mike

If you install using your distro’s package manager, it should take care of the dependencies as well.

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If you use a 64bit distro, you probably need to add the 32bit compatibility stuff for that distro. Which is probably a lot of packages, but not horrible as far as download/disk space goes if you have modern computer with broadband. Other than that, it is the usual drill. Read the compilation instructions from the wine developers to figure out what you need to compile yourself (or find a build script of some kind to study) , or read the documentation from you distro's repo about what the package needs to pull in.

I tried that but when I try to run the program, the system looks at me like I have three heads.

(Kernel: 5.8.0-41-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A Desktop: Cinnamon 4.8.6 wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20.1 Ulyssa base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal)

I do have a second 1 TB SSD in my laptop that I could set up for dual boot (it's currently not being used) but I'm really trying very hard to not have to install Windoze. Someone mentioned setting up a VM but I have zero ideas how to do that.

Mike

Might help if you told us what this program is; could very well have a Linux equivalent that won't need wine at all. Have you checked the wine database, to see if the program is supported?
https://appdb.winehq.org/

And maybe if you tell us what the error(s)/message(s) you're seeing were, we could offer some advice. Hard to say much when all we know is "like I have three heads".
Virtualbox is the easiest; since you're using Mint, there are abundant guides:
https://www.itzgeek.com/post/how-to-...linux-mint-20/

I have already contacted the company and they said they do not have a Linux version nor an equivalent.

As for the WINE program itself, I when through the normal installation routine as per the software manager. It says the program is installed but it is nowhere to be found on my computer. When I install programs, they normally appear under ALL APPLICATIONS but WINE appears nowhere.

I just read on the Linux Mint forum that many have tried installing WINE on Mint 20.1 and it was absolutely worthless for them as well. I guess I'll just look into the VM idea and/or set up my second SSD with Windoze and dual boot.

Thanks.


Mike

What is the application?

You can run it from a terminal like this
Some reading
https://linuxhint.com/installing_wine_linux_mint/
https://linoxide.com/linux-mint/inst...on-linux-mint/

It really a depends on the applications your are attempting to run. It's not a perfect science.

And again, you don't say what company or program you're talking about, or what it does.
As ferrari said, wine doesn't show up in the menu; please see the wine documentation, as well as other documentation found on wine and how its used:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=277874

Not meaning to sound harsh, but in your profile it says you own a computer business. If one of your customers came to you and said, "I've got a program that looks at me like I've got three heads, how can I make it work?", with no other information...what, exactly, would you tell them? Because that's the situation we're in here. Wine is not a 100% guarantee to work, but there are some errors that can be worked around, if we have the information about the error(s)/message(s).

I'm sorry. I thought I included the name of the program. My bad. The program is Logos. When I installed WINE on another laptop that I tried Xubuntu on, WINE showed up in the menu and I was able to click on it just fine. Just trying to wrap my head around it is all. I'm basing my observations on very limited experience with Linux so please bear with me.

No worries. You aren't sounding harsh and I apologize for my cryptic description about it looking at me with three heads. Just trying to add a bit of levity to it. Sorry. In a nutshell, here is what has happened:

1. Tried to find a Linux equivalent of a program called Logos. Couldn't find anything and so I contacted the company directly. They said they do not support Linux.
2. Looked into installing WINE on my laptop to try to get Logos to work. I used the Software Manager to locate it and install it.
3. After install, I couldn't find any trace of the program. Every other program I've installed through the Software Manager showed up somewhere in the Start menu in one of the ten or so categories and so I just assumed it would as well because it appears in other flavors of Linux I've played with in trying to get a better grasp of it.
4. Also, I realize that just because it's not appearing doesn't mean it's not there. I just can't find it; that;s all.
5. In other forums, I have read multiple accounts of people not having any luck with WINE in Mint 20.1.

As a side note, my entire journey in trying out these different distros for myself started just a couple months ago when a customer brought a laptop to my shop and said her husband tried to do a side-by-side install with Windows, not realizing Linux would wipe his entire drive and so now she couldn't get certain things to work. As it turns out, I was able to at least figure out her issues but it took some doing. So now, I'm trying to learn how things work "under the hood" instead of just as a user. In over 37 years of working on computers (99.8% Windows operating systems), I've only had two that had Linux installed. The first one wasn't even a "repair," per se. They just wanted Windows reinstalled because they didn't like Linux.

So, that's the history of how I got to where I'm at with my question. I despise Bill Gates but his crappy OS has given me job security for decades. Now I just want to further distance myself from Windows products on my personal assets and dive into Linux because I really like it.

Thanks for your patience. I will try to be more sparing in my levity and cryptographic descriptions going forward. Sorry about that and thank you for your help and patience.

Mike

When you install an app with Wine, it normally gets installed into your home directory in a hidden folder named .wine from what I remember. From in there you should be able to track the .exe down and run it from the command line or something like that.
Running it from the command line will give you a lot of output and hopefully some of the errors that can be used to maybe find a fix. Some apps relay on some little used code in Windows that may not have been reversed engineered yet to understand what it does. Or there might be some command line arguments that can be added to force Wine to act a little different, but it is not easy.

Once that works you can use the menu editor to make an icon in the start menu.

The latest version of Wine may not be in the repo, so for Ubuntu and its variants you add this repo to get the latest version straight from the Wine folks. https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu

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If you're talking about the Logos bible software, there have been discussions/documents I found with a Google search, including:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.vxwgue7vf7f0

...related to Logos 8. And it is supported under Wine, as it's in the app database (see previous link):
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManag...cation&iId=771

There appear to be folks on their forums who have done this with Wine/Linux.


And the issue with the person and the side-by-side was user error: Linux doesn't wipe your hard drive, unless you tell it to on installation.

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I've been there with Mint-(19.x) and wine is solely 64bit. 32bit compatibility libs are not for the faint of heart. Basically, you have to install wine32, which you can do if you have a 32bit OS, so Mint won't tell you you can't.

Logos, I imagine, is 32bit. You can check with file. Options:

1. I use slackware64 and have no issues running 32 bit stuff. Like you, I have a religious thing, Watchtower Library in my case. It runs well. I think Fedora is ok too, but I'm not sure.The issue is that 32bit libs ≠ 64 bit libs. So if you have a 64bit OS, files like /lib/ld-linux.so must be 64 bit. But to run a 32bit program, even under wine, /lib/ld-linux.so must be 32bit. Slackware & Fedora solve it by using /lib64 & /usr/lib64 for 64bit libs.
2. You can install a dual boot 32bit OS and that will run it with the complication of rebooting. It's quite OK otherwise. You could even dispense with the 64bit one and live in 32bits if your pc is not greatly taxed.
3. You can install Virtualbox, but in that you can only allocate your Guest (the foreign OS) 50% of cpu and 50% of ram. You should have 4 cores minimum and minimum 8G or ram before you try this. There is a learning curve, and limitations, because the guest can't see your host machine. File transfer can be a big deal.

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Yup. That is what I told my customer but it was too late. Her husband is not very computer savvy and just wanted to try to save some money on hiring someone to set up Linux and Windows side-by-side. It is clear that he didn't understand the installation narrative as it progressed. Such is life.

Interestingly enough, she seems to enjoy Linux for her work but it's all new to her (as to me, for the most part) and so there is that learning curve. She calls often so I'm working to not only use Linux almost exclusively for myself but also to keep one step ahead of her as she runs into issues.

Mike

Thanks. I printed out that doc and I am aware of the other link you send for WineHQ. I'm using version 9 of the software and so I'll read over this stuff and see what I can glean and give it another go.


Mike.

I linked to page about installing Wine in a Linux Mint environment back in post #7. Take the time to read these and things will become clearer to you. If you get stuck somewhere, start a new thread with descriptive title so that others can assist further.

FWIW, I have openSUSE installed as a VirtualBox guest (Windows 10 host), and this is a good way to access a Linux environment while learning /experimenting etc. It's easty to install multiple OS environments if you have the necessary host resources. I have the networking set up as a bridge, so that the guest just appears as a another host on the LAN. This makes access to other services on the LAN trivial, and in addition to VirtualBox file sharing working, I have samba file sharing implemented as well. Not hard at all.

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