I am running suse 9.2 on my m200 and it is currently crawling in some ways While booting it pauses for thirty seconds in initialize hardware before continueing the boot sequence. when doing a ctrl+alt+f1 from X it takes at least 12 seconds to get to the terminal. It is running with 768 mb of ram on a pentium m 1.5ghz cpu, it really should not take this long should it?

Bad day post:

That really helped me, my computer is working fine now thanks to you!

I recommend not posting a reply without knowing what you're talking about. It is clear that the computer is waiting for a timeout at boot in the 30 second pause, If you're offended by my post then go have some good clean fun somewhere else, honestly man, have you never hit your computer in anger because it doesn't work? This is the same thing, allthough youre reply managed to f*ck up my day too...



After your edit, I might seem a bit touchy

More ideas.
What does your /boot/grub/grub.conf have in it. There might be a line or even an option that hides some output infomoration that is not being printing to the screen during boot. Redhat uses something called quiet and or rghb or something on the kernel line in grub.conf.

Also old rehat used an app called kudzu to detect hardware at boot. Usually did not work well. Don't know what suse uses. Figure that out and maybe if you are not installing new hardware disable that utility.

Now if it crawling does it do it at certain times?
Does it only happen with certain Apps?
It could be and issue in the bios and possible speed stepping down the processor on low use to save battery power.
One could try noapci on the kernel line to stop apci from starting. Also stop any acpi scripts like ' service acpid stop ' Though this is usually used to activate actions when events are triggered like closing the lid on the notebook.

Found this out on the web. http://www.adebenham.com/laptop/toshiba_m200.html

Brian1
" Google the Linux way @ http://www.google.com/linux "

I'll try to disable the hardware detciton at next reboot, so far I've tried the noapic, noacpi, pci=noapic and since it does not have a cdrom I've also tried hdc=no(something). The annoying thing is that suse 9.1 works flawlessly in this concern, but since I bought suse 9.2 and it has got better laptop support I want to stick with it.

My grub.conf (actually menu.1st which is linked to grub.conf)

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title SUSE LINUX 9.2
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 vga=791 selinux=0 splash=silent a
cpi=on noapic resume=/dev/hda5 showopts desktop elevator=as
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd

and the system pauses on (MAY BE A SMALL BREAKTHROUGH)

<6>ICH4: chipset revision 3
<6>ICH4: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later
<6> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xbfa0-0xbfa7, BIOS settings: hdaMA, hdbio
<7>Probing IDE interface ide0...
<4>hda: SAMSUNG MP0804H, ATA DISK drive
<4>ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 <-----IT stalls here but the next lines are not visible while booting, This may be the reason, since it is probing you might be right about the hardware probing part
<7>Probing IDE interface ide1...
<7>ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe !
<7>Probing IDE interface ide2...
<7>ide2: Wait for ready failed before probe !
<7>Probing IDE interface ide3...
<7>ide3: Wait for ready failed before probe !
<7>Probing IDE interface ide4...
<7>ide4: Wait for ready failed before probe !
<7>Probing IDE interface ide5...
<7>ide5: Wait for ready failed before probe !
<6>hda: max request size: 1024KiB
<6>hda: 156368016 sectors (80060 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100
)
<7>hda: cache flushes supported
<6> hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 >
<4>ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
<6>mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice

I'll look into this tomorrow, the lagging in x is probably caused by the nvidia card, there are similar reports by users who have got windows on their machines (found it on tabletpcbuzz.com). Anyways, thanks for the input

Be sure to check which modules are loading, too. I have a Toshiba M35x-series and after disabling a few unneeded modules, I went from a slow crawl to a quick pace.

First I too am quick to judge somethings. I apologize for that. I also understand days like that myself. I like to help and learn as much that I can. I mostly misread your first post as well. My fault there.

Back to business.
I agree above that maybe some modules may be loading and are not necessary or possible the wrong module. I would study the loaded modules from the command ' lsmod ' See what each one are and then do a ' rmmod module_name '. See how that goes

I did a quick search on the net and have a few more thoughts for you.

I see there is issues with hotplug in suse 9.2 which is used to detect hardware. Not sure when it loads. There might be an update to it. Don't know how much updates have been applied to your notebook.

Another thought is build a new kernel. If you have 2.6.9, I have seen issues mostly USB though. Don't know how easy it is to build a new kernel on Suse. There might be a .config or config file in boot that matches your current kernel level. If there is one I would use that as a base to load with.

Another thought on lagging which I forgot to post was if it happens at a certain time, either during the day or from startup, it might be a cron event running. Check your processes and see if something is a cpu hog. Maybe the hardrive is working hard for some reason also.

On lagging again you might check and make sure the processor is speed stepped down. On most system one can issue the following commands. Your true map to each item may differ or some may not exist.
cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info Info on processor
cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/limit some limits
cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power some other options
cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling the speed step part.
Last one is what I would look at. On mine I have 7 steps. 7 is top speed. 1 is the lowest and equals to about 1/4 proceesor power. Again this can be controlled by acpid or possible the bios.


Seen this also while browsing http://slforums.typo3-factory.net/

If I come up with anymore ideas I will post me here. With all the experiments I have tried there is not one single prefect Linux distro. I usually try to pull pieces from others to get it the way I like it.

Brian1
" Google the Linux way @ http://www.google.com/linux "

I probably can live with the lagging, but I will try everything you suggest. It might though have something to do with nvidia, since windows users of similar laptops have encountered similar problems. I tried to remove most modules except the ipv6 modules, I do not think I am in need of these, but they seemed so intangled in the network and in each others (the other modules) that I just left them alone. with pcmcia, cdrom, parallel port and others removed I did not notice any real gain in speed, I will continue trying though.

The boot issue:
I applied iden=noprobe (n=0-5) in grub, I had tried something similar earlier (hdx=noprobe (x=a-z)) which did not work. This got rid of the pause in the boot process, now its down to an amazing 50 or so seconds, this is something I can live with, I can now sleep sound tonight I would like to send a praise to the acpi kernel team, thanks to you I seldom have too boot anyways. Also I have gotten a new believe in the possibility to actually fix something that is broken, for me my laptop is now more precious than ever.

Apology excepted by the way, thanks for your help also, I do also apologize for the title of my post which is probably a bit controversial, I am from a non-english speaking country (who would have thought), and because of TV (blame it on TV®) we might take a bit lightly the concept of foul language, I know I do... sorry

My laptop is now by the way a 1.7 ghz dothan cpu, this cpu is not currently supported on this laptop somehow. anyways, I get very little out of proc for the moment...

Problem partly solved, a million thanks to you, keep up supporting people on LQ