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Old 06-07-2010, 08:53 PM   #1
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Installing Linux on IBM ThinkPad 390E - 2nd effort


After much effort at trying to install EasyPeasy,. Crunchbang and others,with no success, I noted for one that the pgms included in the Ubuntu User Magazine are on a DVD. Burning downloaded pgms on CD's with Vista gave no result either -
I found that the IBM Thinkpad 390E needs the CD to be formatted in CDFS and the copied programs were not in that format.

seemingly Vista can not format in CDFS - any comments and help would be most appreciated !

Thank you
 
Old 06-07-2010, 09:18 PM   #2
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Do you mean ISO 9660 .. the standard optical disc format?
 
Old 06-07-2010, 09:35 PM   #3
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I think ISO 9660 and CDFS are the same and more reading is required on my part
 
Old 06-07-2010, 09:37 PM   #4
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CDFS has various meanings depdending on the context.
cdfs as ref to linux is a filesystem designed to display audio CDs as regular files similar to how windows works.
cdfs in windows is the CDROM file system driver OR CDFS may reference the filesystem found on data CDs which is known as iso9660. ISO9660 is the standard which defines how data is written to CDROMs and an iso file is a byte for byte image of a data CD.

From a bit of googling this laptop could either have a CD or DVD removable drive. If all you have is a CD drive then a DVD disk will not work. How are you burning the images? Are you using isorecorder as suggested in your other thread?

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Old 06-07-2010, 09:45 PM   #5
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I will try and find isorecorder again - I worked off a Vista machine, will try it on this
one which runs Ubuntu
 
Old 06-07-2010, 09:51 PM   #6
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I have installed

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http://yatsite.blogspot.com/search/label/Broken


You might consider Trying Slitaz or Debian Net Install

Puppy 4.1 retro would work well also.


I have since sold that Laptop. If I still had it. I would probably try Tiny Core on it.
 
Old 06-07-2010, 09:57 PM   #7
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some more readings, did not know there were that many small OS - tnx, I will get and see some
of those when I get to copy them correctly on a CD
 
Old 06-07-2010, 10:38 PM   #8
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downloaded tinycore_2.11.3 on vista machine, copied it on a cd-rw using iso recorder and went to 390E where it showed as an audio cd with a 10 meg file that would not budge so I'll be off duty again for more reading - thanks Roky and MichaelK
 
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Be sure to burn any ISO file as an Image file, with whatever burning software you are using.
 
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burning image

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Be sure to burn any ISO file as an Image file, with whatever burning software you are using.
I have the isorecorder Power2Go and am burning now we'll see, tnx
 
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tinycore

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I have installed



http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ns-antix-2131/


http://yatsite.blogspot.com/search/label/Broken


You might consider Trying Slitaz or Debian Net Install

Puppy 4.1 retro would work well also.


I have since sold that Laptop. If I still had it. I would probably try Tiny Core on it.
seems TinyCore needs access to the web, dont have that yet - getting the 390E to read my copied disks will be enough probl for now - tnx for your notes
 
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Good morning yourself dlaval.

I will keep my comments in the forum so other members can benefit from your install.

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good morning

since you've done it, I would appreciate your comments - my 1st problem is burning a CD that will be accepted by the laptop- I am presently using
Ubuntu on an eMachine - I read about MKHYBRID which supposedly can burn
a CD acceptable to old CD-ROM but have not been able to even get that MK..
yet ..
A friend tells me no to bother with such old boxes 390E but since others did it why not try ... thanks in advance - Laval
It sounds like you are still new at installing Linux to any Laptop (IMO). I think Tiny Core might be a little challenging for you to install for starters. Because of that. I would go with a conventional Slitaz or Puppy Install.

On My 390E this is how I would go about installing a new Linux OS. Man, It been a long time since I did this and I used a Bootable KillDisk Floppy back then to erase the Hardrive. And a Gparted Bootable ISO to make my Partitions. Linux has advanced since then in leaps and bounds.

My Instructions now will be for Puppy Linux. No need to over think it and go the MKHYBRID route.
Just use Braserio in your Ubuntu to burn a Iso Image of
ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/d...tel_modems.iso
ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/d...es/md5sums.txt

Do a md5sum check of downloaded iso. With Ubuntu. Just open a terminal in Nautilus file Manager where the iso is sitting and type in md5sum (name of iso goes here)
Burn it at a slow speed (4x) on a good cdr disk. Old cdrom does like to boot from cdrw, At least mine didn't.

Boot up Puppy CD after picking CDROM boot first in bios boot order.
Use Gparted in Puppy after it boots to delete all partitions on the hardrive.
Make a swap partition of lets say 512mb.
Make the rest of the drive (label it as /) and format it as Ext3 file system
After you are done. Close Gparted and start installing Puppy.
Whrn given the option for Full or Frugal Install. I would go for the Frugal option.

Reason is you can install Pet peckages and .sfs files in a frugal install but only pet packages in a full install. Frugal gives you more options.

When asked where to install Grub. Install to MBR.

At the end when you shut down. Pick save. Save to whatever drive desgination / sits on. When asked if wanting to save .sfs and insert cd. Say yes and make sure CD is inserted.


If you follow my steps. You should be booting Puppy and able to connect via Land line.
I used 2 different PCMCIA Cards to connect with mine.

For Land Line



For Wireless


Note: For the wireless PCMCIA Card. I would email the seller before buying and ask if they know what chipset that card uses. My Best Cards I have bought are Belkin F5D 7010 ver.6
with a Raylink chipset. I have had good luck also with DLink WNA 1330 with the Atheros chipset also. Just Plug and connect.

After you run Puppy A while and get better using Linux. Then maybe you could set up Tiny Core inside of Puppy (Tiny Core will run inside of a working Linux installed OS) and maybe setup Slitaz Later to dualboot along side Puppy on the same drive also.

Ubuntu is way too heavy for a 390E. AntiX 6.5 ran good on mine. If interested. Anticapalista, the developer. Is working on a Cli installer, Think Xubuntu Alternate Install CD, But it is still in the works yet. Get a working install going first. Then you can experiment as you gain
experience.

Those are my comments. I am sure other members will chime in on other distros. Good Luck with it.

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Old 06-09-2010, 08:19 AM   #13
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Thank you very much Roky, your lines are very much appreciated

I am newbie with Linux, I have installed Unbuntu on an eMachine and EasyPeasy on a Toshiba NB100, that was easy, on current machines, ... but its a different thing with the TB 390E.

I go through a D-Link router to cable so that route will need some fixing on the 390 - - I was burning on CD-RW, you suggest CDR and I will do accordingly - Your lines about Gparted, swap, etc gives me the shingles ... we'll see when I get there.

Again, thanks a lot and I will report -
 
  


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