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Old 11-10-2003, 02:40 PM   #16
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somehow... probably by shear blind luck I have finally managed to get wvdial to initialse my modem and dial my isp. Hurrah, a break through.

Now tho.. i have another prob (which is the way it seems to go for me with linux). wvdial dials ok, says its connected then gets to a line that says:

pid of pppd and halts. Ive tried using mozilla and ftp to see if i can connect to anything at this point... but no joy. Anybody got any ideas???

Thanks again.
 
Old 11-10-2003, 03:07 PM   #17
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My guess is when you configured the hardware and device, there is now enough info for wvdial to initiate a connection. If your seeing a connection and it's dropping, it sounds like your not authenticating to your ISP. To verify, check the last few messages to a file /var/log/messages. From the commandline:

# tail /var/log/messages


It should print out the last 10 lines from the kernel and daemons into that file.
 
Old 11-10-2003, 04:24 PM   #18
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right... here's what ive got

ppp generic driver version 2.42
PPPd 2.4.1 Started by root, uid 0
using interface ppp0
connect ppp0 <--> /dev/ttySHSFO
/etc/hotplug/net.agent: assuming ppp0 is aready up
modprobe: modprobe: can't load module ppp-compress-21
kernel ppp cant locate module ppp-compress-21
Local ip address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (replaced em, cos i'm paranoid. lol)
Remote ip address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Primary DNS xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Secondary DNS xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
hangup (SIGHUP)
modem hungup
communication terminated
connection time 3.1 mins
Sent 360 Bytes Received 342 bytes
/etc/hotplug/net.agent NET unregistered event not supported
exit

I hope that makes sense to somebody. cos it might aswell be in french to me.

Many thanks yet again.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 09:50 AM   #19
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hmmm, it looks like you were able to negotiate with your ISP. Your address and DNS information is evidence. I'm not exactly sure why ppp-compress-21 kernel module is needed to sustain the connection. I don't have a dial up account to verify and try and get it working from here.

I'm curious, what 3rd party drivers do you have installed? Just curious if you removed the driver prior to trying this experiment. Also, I believe the installer might of left an entry in your /etc/modules.conf file for the missing kernel module. If you removed the driver, you might want to remove that line from your /etc/modules.conf.

Just to let you know. . ..At this point, I might be running you in curcles. I have no way of verifying my suggestion and I am just throwing my opinion (sorry!) I checked around and anybody who put out a working profile on the laptop has modem listed as untested.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 10:04 AM   #20
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Yeah, ive been finding the same things. Its almost like i'm the only person thats tried getting the modem up and running on this machine.

Last night i uninstalled and re-installed the drivers but i keep getting the same prob. I have emailed my isp but they haven't got back to me yet.

Can you let me know. If i connect through wvdial, should i then just be able to open netscape and access the web or is there something else i need to do.... sorry, i'm just getting a bit confused by this now.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 10:06 AM   #21
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Oh I think I overlooked this tidbit, you might want to look over this document:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/doc...PPP-HOWTO.html

This document appears to cover the wvdial and is geared for PPP. Just cruising the TOC is doesn't appear to mention Gnome but there appears to be a valuable debugging section.

Good luck, and let me know how it goes. If you have questions while going through the document, just ask.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 10:21 AM   #22
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CORRECTION: I believe I was wrong about removing the entry to ppp_compress_21. From snooping around it looks like the entry is missing. It looks like it's a generic module name and you create an alias in /etc/modules.conf to the correct module. I would cruise the doc I mentioned before messing with any config files.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 10:38 AM   #23
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yeah.. i have tried the following:

alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate


but it makes no differenc to the prob.

Thanks again for all your help with this by the way. I really appreciate it!!!
 
Old 11-11-2003, 10:42 AM   #24
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does redhat incnclude the kppp or do i have to download it. I also cant seem to find rp3 in redhat 9.

Sorry for the double post btw.

Last edited by SgtBhaji; 11-11-2003 at 10:44 AM.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 12:00 PM   #25
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BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I finally got my modem to work!!! blimey. i feel like ive finally made a break trough with linux. Thank you sooooo much for all you help. I really appreciate it.

I looked at that doc that you posted and decided to track down kppp. it turns out i didnt have it installed, so i installed it and it works a treat.

My only prob now is that the driver i downloaded only runs at 14.4. is there any other drivers i could use or some previous freeware ones??? I'll buy the drivers. but i want to use it some more before i commit to spending any money, cos money is quite tight atm.

Thank you once again!!!!

also... i'm really sorry to keep bugging you. But do you have any ideas on how i would start to get ACPI working? My computer starts to bake everytime i go in to linux and i wouldnt mind being able to make use of the battery monitor!!!
 
Old 11-11-2003, 02:41 PM   #26
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No worries, I just wish I was able to point you to the exact direction. Congradulations!

I'm running kernel v2.6 test5 on my m5310 and ACPI isn't quite working. I'm able to read the battery state and some other info. I've heard rumors of it working to some degree but I haven't checked recently.

I'm hesitant to change kernels at this time, because I put in some effort to get framebuffering and video accel working. Plus, work load is heavy right now so time is a premium. My current state is I have everything except wireless working and I'm quite happy with it.

In about another 3 weeks time will start to free up again, I'll visit those features then.


BTW, here's the link I used if you want acceleration working:

http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314
 
Old 11-11-2003, 02:51 PM   #27
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thanks for the info on getting the accel working. Unfortunatly i have no idea what i'm supposed to do. lol.

I feel like such an idiot.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 09:04 PM   #28
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I wouldn't worry about it. At least your willing to do the legwork to empower yourself. Everybody starts with baby steps.

Just be greatful that there's a forum like this to help even experienced people like myself. >;0)

If you want to get it going, you will definately learn a lot about software and where everything belongs. If you decide to take these steps let me know and give me a few weeks to get my current project released. I've read somewhere that the ACPI group just released some new stuff. I'm hoping it'll work some magic with our m5310. You'll need to be patient though, you'll be downloading some sizable source code and compiling will take some time. It's not for the timid. >;0)
 
Old 11-11-2003, 10:16 PM   #29
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lol... yeah. i just downloaded the 2.6 test 8 kernel....i'm not even sure if i know what i'm doing. but i guess i'll find out when it all goes pear shaped!!!

I'm going to be looking further in to getting acpi working. so if i make any major breaktroughs. I'll let you know.

I dont suppose you could point me in the right direction for getting the acelleration to work from that link you gave me could you?

Thanks again!! btw. if you decide to try get your modem up and running i managed to get the beta drivers for the connexant modem. they run at full tilt and i haven't experienced any probs so far in using them. it beats 14.4 on the free drivers thats for sure.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 12:43 PM   #30
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That's a good find on the drivers. I'm a little curious as to why the stock kernel modules don't provide that, oh well.

As for acceleration on graphics, you'll be:
- getting the kernel sources
- getting the xfree86 sources, you'll want the cvs tarfile not the release
- get the patches on the link I sent you

You should start at the patches, because your after a certain functionality and the patches were written for a certain kernel and xfree86 release. IMHO I would also start from the bottom of the link. I think it would take you a good part of a day just reading all of the entries on that link I sent you. Fortunately, the guys who are working on it are very verbose and also reference earlier messages when they discuss things. So, if you don't know what they are talking about they usually include a message and/or patch #.

NOTE: If you get this working, anything else is much smaller. You'll be playing with close to 75 - 100 MB of sources (If I remember correctly). >;0)
 
  


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