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Old 08-25-2013, 11:14 AM   #1
marcelp1
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Samsung 13.3" ATIV Book 9 Lite 128GB SSD NP905S3G


Is is possible to install Debian on this Laptop?
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/p...S3G-K01UK-spec

or does it come with the TPM chip that makes it impossible?

If so, how likely am I to get refund on the Windows 8 if even possible?
 
Old 08-26-2013, 04:07 AM   #2
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If so, how likely am I to get refund on the Windows 8 if even possible?
Umm, ???soft and refunds? LOL, not likely. Once you've bought it, you might as well get burried with it...
Personally, I dont see any problems...go for it, I'd say, but then, that's motto...

Thor
 
Old 09-30-2013, 07:15 AM   #3
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"I am new to linux so please be patient with me."


I have taken a chance and purchased the Samsung 13.3" ATIV Book 9 Lite 128GB SSD NP905S3G-K02UK
to see if I can have a Wheezy running on it. The refund for Windows 8 if Wheeze works is out of the windows
as it looks like complicated process (exactly as M$ wanted I guess).

There is no return policy once I have switched the notebook on, so my plan is if Wheezy does not work
reliably on it, I want to restore it back to its original settings (with Windows 8) and want to sell it on ...


There was no installation DVD with the product (it does not come with "ODD as Samsung calls it" DVD drive, but I purchased SE-218BB/RSBS
from Amazon @ 29.00 anyway, just in case), but that may make installing Windows 8 back on it problematic I fear
as I have converted since Windows 7 (and installation DVD I had with last laptop) to Debian Wheezy and not been up to date with what is going on in M$ world ;(

Looking around I have found that Windows 8 no longer uses Product Keys (there is just a sticker at the bottom of the
notepad with Windows logo on it and nothing else) and instead it is programmed into the BIOS ........
it comes with installation of Samsung Recovery Solution aka WinClone and the 128GB SSD has 6 partitions
as shown in SRS Management Mode (press F4 on boot and then Ctrl+Alt+F10 password is secclx

Disk: 0
[W:] RECOVERY [1] : [0~0] 0.5GB
[S:] ESP [2] : [0~0] 0.3GB
MSR [3] : [0~0] 0.1GB
[C:] [4] : [0~99] 99.0GB
[Y:] RECOVERY [5] : [99~117] 18.3GB
[Z:] RECOVERY [6] : [118~119] 1.0GB
from which one should be able to get the system back to original - purchase state I presume, but did not have time to
investigate yet as I am waiting for the External DVD drive to arrive yet.


I have managed to disable "Secure Boot Control" in BIOS (pressing F2 key on boot)
here is the settings at the moment:

BOOT MENU
Boot Device Priority > Boot Option Priorities
Boot Option #1: "Windows Boot Manager" default

Secure Boot Control: Off
OS Mode Selection: CSM and UEFI OS
AHCI Mode Control: Manual
Set AHCI Mode: Enabled
Fast BISO Mode: Off
PXE OPROM: Off

This allowed me to use F10 during the boot process to get to select device I want to boot from.

Using LinuxLive USB Creator 2.8.24 I have created from debian-live-7.1-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso
a bootable USB stick to see how it works under the Wheezy.

There is a disadvantage from those "Live Linux" OS's (YUMI Multiboot USB Creator atc.) running from
the USB drives as it is created on FAT32 which limits the personal space it can create
on that virtual drive (4 GB limit) the Wheeze is running from and therefore can't install all
the required updates and backports to get for example the Atheros AR9565 wireless to work

Looking around I have not found a method that I could make a (USB2 stick / drive that is USB3 compatible) bootable fully
operational Wheezy OS I can try out as all other experiments before resulted in the MBR being overwritten
so if there is a simple step by step guide I would be great full if someone could point me to it.
I have ordered HGST 0S03560 1TB 2.5 inch Touro Mobile Pro External Hard Drive to experiment with suggestions and install
the Wheeze on it to take with me as well when out and about and about and use my preferred OS.


Here are some details of the machine:

root@debian:/home/user# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0129 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 2232:1054
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 05dc:a011 Lexar Media, Inc.
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0cf3:3004 Atheros Communications, Inc.


root@debian:/home/user# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Root Complex
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 983d
00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 9840
00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 0
00:02.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Functions 5:1
00:02.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Functions 5:1
00:10.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH USB XHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40)
00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller (rev 39)
00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller (rev 39)
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller (rev 39)
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller (rev 39)
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 3a)
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 02)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 11)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 0
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 5
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 0c)
02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)



root@debian:/home/user# lsmod
Module Size Used by
fuse 62020 5
parport_pc 22364 0
ppdev 12763 0
lp 17149 0
parport 31858 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc
bnep 17567 2
rfcomm 33700 0
binfmt_misc 12957 1
uinput 17440 1
snd_hda_codec_realtek 188858 1
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 30824 1
uvcvideo 57744 0
videodev 70889 1 uvcvideo
v4l2_compat_ioctl32 16655 1 videodev
media 18148 2 videodev,uvcvideo
rts5139 199528 0
ath3k 12671 0
btusb 17502 0
bluetooth 119455 12 btusb,ath3k,rfcomm,bnep
crc16 12343 1 bluetooth
powernow_k8 17618 0
snd_hda_intel 26259 3
mperf 12453 1 powernow_k8
crc32c_intel 12747 0
snd_hda_codec 78031 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek
samsung_laptop 12863 0
evdev 17562 17
ghash_clmulni_intel 13173 0
aesni_intel 50667 0
snd_hwdep 13186 1 snd_hda_codec
battery 13146 0
snd_pcm 68083 3 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_hdmi
aes_x86_64 16843 1 aesni_intel
rfkill 19012 4 samsung_laptop,bluetooth
snd_page_alloc 13003 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
aes_generic 33026 2 aes_x86_64,aesni_intel
ac 12624 0
psmouse 64497 0
snd_seq 45126 0
video 17683 0
wmi 13243 0
cryptd 14517 2 aesni_intel,ghash_clmulni_intel
power_supply 13475 2 ac,battery
snd_seq_device 13176 1 snd_seq
serio_raw 12931 0
i2c_piix4 12536 0
snd_timer 22917 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
pcspkr 12579 0
i2c_core 23876 2 i2c_piix4,videodev
fam15h_power 12677 0
snd 52889 15 snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,sn d_hda_codec_realtek
button 12937 0
processor 28157 5 powernow_k8
soundcore 13065 1 snd
squashfs 31302 1
loop 22641 2
aufs 146270 138
nls_cp437 16553 2
vfat 17316 2
fat 45642 1 vfat
nls_utf8 12456 2
ntfs 163882 0
usb_storage 43870 1
sg 25874 0
sd_mod 36136 6
crc_t10dif 12348 1 sd_mod
ohci_hcd 26563 0
thermal 17383 0
thermal_sys 18040 3 thermal,processor,video
xhci_hcd 73434 0
ahci 24997 3
libahci 22860 1 ahci
r8169 46972 0
mii 12675 1 r8169
libata 140630 2 libahci,ahci
ehci_hcd 40215 0
scsi_mod 162269 5 libata,sd_mod,sg,usb_storage,rts5139
usbcore 128741 9 ehci_hcd,xhci_hcd,ohci_hcd,usb_storage,btusb,ath3k,rts5139,uvcvideo
usb_common 12354 1 usbcore





root@debian:/home/user# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs 1.7G 219M 1.5G 13% /
udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev
tmpfs 341M 740K 340M 1% /run
/dev/sdb1 15G 5.2G 9.8G 35% /lib/live/mount/medium
/dev/loop0 1.1G 1.1G 0 100% /lib/live/mount/rootfs/filesystem.squashfs
tmpfs 1.7G 0 1.7G 0% /lib/live/mount/overlay
tmpfs 1.7G 0 1.7G 0% /lib/live/mount/overlay
aufs 1.7G 219M 1.5G 13% /
tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
tmpfs 682M 336K 681M 1% /run/shm
/dev/sda5 19G 19G 278M 99% /media/SAMSUNG_REC2
/dev/sda6 1020M 621M 400M 61% /media/SAMSUNG_REC
/dev/sda1 499M 344M 156M 69% /media/Windows RE tools





root@debian:/home/user# blkid
/dev/sda1: LABEL="Windows RE tools" UUID="E0EEAAAAAAAA060" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda2: LABEL="SYSTEM" UUID="08A2-AAAD" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/sda4: LABEL="HDD" UUID="7C6A83AAAAAAAAA" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda5: LABEL="SAMSUNG_REC2" UUID="EAAAAAAAAAAADCE7F" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda6: LABEL="SAMSUNG_REC" UUID="3114-AAAD" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/sdb1: LABEL="MYLINUXLIVE" UUID="3115-AAA0" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"




root@debian:/home/user# inxi -Fxz
System: Host: debian Kernel: 3.2.0-4-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.6.3) Desktop: N/A Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 7.0
Machine: System: SAMSUNG product: 905S3G/906S3G/915S3G version: P03RBV
Mobo: SAMSUNG model: NP905S3G-K02UK version: SAMSUNG_SW__1234567890ABCD
Bios: American Megatrends version: P03RBV.061.130704.FL date: 07/04/2013
CPU: Quad core (up to ) (-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 7985.68
Clock Speeds: 1: 600.00 MHz 2: 1000.00 MHz 3: 600.00 MHz 4: 600.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 983d bus-ID: 00:01.0
X.org: 1.12.4 drivers: ati,vesa (unloaded: fbdev,radeon) tty size: 143x28 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 9840 driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:01.1
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.24
Network: Card-1: Atheros AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter bus-ID: 02:00.0
IF: N/A state: N/A mac: N/A
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Card-3: Atheros usb-ID: 0cf3:3004
IF: N/A state: N/A speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives: HDD Total Size: 144.1GB (18.0% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_MZMTD128 size: 128.0GB temp: 0C
2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 16.0GB temp: 0C
Partition: ID: / size: 1.7G used: 213M (13%) fs: rootfs
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0C mobo: 53.0C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 159 Uptime: 14 min Memory: 467.3/3405.2MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.7.2 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4


Info from Disk Utility in Wheezy and Disk Management Console in Win 8:
Partitioning: GUID Partition Table

Usage: Filesystem
Partition Type: Microsft Windows Recovery Environment
Partition Flags: Required
Type: NTFS
Label: Windows RE tools
Device: /dev/sda1
Partition Label: Basic data partition
Capacity: 523 MB (523,239,424 bytes)
Win 8 compmgmt.msc: 499 MB


Usage: Filesystem
Partition Type: EFI System Partition
Partition Flags: -
Type: FAT (32-bit version)
Label: SYSTEM
Device: /dev/sda2
Partition Label: EFI system partition
Capacity: 315 MB (314,572,800 bytes)
Win 8 compmgmt.msc: 300 MB


Usage: -
Partition Type: Microsoft Reserved Partition
Partition Flags: -
Label: Unknown
Device: /dev/sda3
Partition Label: Microsoft Reserved Partition
Capacity: 134 MB (134,217,728 bytes)
Win 8 compmgmt.msc: NOT SHOWN


Usage: Filesystem
Partition Type: Linux Basic Data partition
Partition Flags: -
Type: NTFS
Label: HDD
Device: /dev/sda4
Partition Label: Basic Data partition
Capacity: 106 GB (106,328,752,128 bytes)
Win 8 compmgmt.msc: 99.03 GB


Usage: Filesystem
Partition Type: Microsft Windows Recovery Environment
Partition Flags: Required
Type: NTFS
Label: SAMSUNG_REC2
Device: /dev/sda5
Partition Label: Basic data partition
Capacity: 20 GB (19,659,721,424 bytes)
Win 8 compmgmt.msc: 18.31 GB


Usage: Filesystem
Partition Type: Microsft Windows Recovery Environment
Partition Flags: Required
Type: FAT (32-bit version)
Label: SAMSUNG_REC
Device: /dev/sda6
Partition Label: Basic data partition
Capacity: 1.1 GB (1,073,741,824 bytes)
Win 8 compmgmt.msc: 1.0 GB





My question is:

1. Is there a way I can backup (to DVD installation / recovery files or images or external HDD the whole SSD)
all of the 6 partitions currently on the SSD, then delete them and install fresh copy of Wheezy and if not happy whith the Wheeazy
install back all of the 6 partitions and have Windows 8?


2. if I can not achieve full backup / restore of the Windows I would like to run the Wheezy from external HDD (USB3) and install fully functional Wheezy OS
on the drive if that is possible rather than Live versions?
 
Old 04-20-2014, 11:35 PM   #4
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I also have purchased the laptop. I do not see a problem with dual boot. I can reconcile the Windows 8.1 with 64-bit Ubuntu 14:04 LTE. The key is: Turn off Fast Boot. After that install Linux as usual.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 04:32 AM   #5
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It is not necessarily just to install. i had quite some issues before i got ubuntu running on this computer. In the end i learned that it was only the graphics driver that was missing. meaning i had t (after installation) press ctrl + alt + f1 and install the package fglrx.

I do not remember correctly but i think you should do this on debian to, because it works really slow without amd-catalyst and their proprietary drivers. unfortunately. also when i tried debian i noticed that there was a lot of wifi-issues. this is propably fixed by now though.. hopefully.
 
  


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