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Old 02-19-2011, 09:30 AM   #1
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Need some help


Searched thru forums, found this:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...8/#post3767448
I've got the almost identical bios and the same problem.
I'm using 10.10 64, it's on its own hard drive so no partition.
I installed over W2K. The computer is a dual boot, but with 2 hard drives, so I boot into whichever by the BIOS. Since I boot that way, I don't see a splash screen, but info.
I did get an ati radeon video card installed in a pci slot, as the one on the MB was going. The computer is not crashing, but I can't seem to do much with terminal with this error. I don't think the tech flashed the BIOS, unless you have to for a new video card. But I have been reading the boot menu for years and since I switched to Ubuntu, there is new stuff in it.
I'm not sure what MB I have, but I have a preference for AMD chips, so it could be an ASUS, I'd have to look. It is a dual core 3600, and I know I have enough ram as the other drive is XP and runs Photoshop exclusively. I had the computer built around Photoshop, and update the computer as I update PS. The 2K drive was mostly for internet and email.

I've googled for a fix for this, and all I can find is that it's a bug, and no workaround.

Thanks
Weezy
 
Old 02-20-2011, 06:12 PM   #2
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Old 02-20-2011, 06:17 PM   #3
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I wouldn't expect any video card installation to require flashing the BIOS (maybe some old ones I don't know about, and you did say it was PCI not PCI-e but still...), and in my opinion a tech should never fuss with your BIOS without getting your informed consent first. So let's assume that is not the problem, or at least not assume that it is, yet. I suspect the problem is actually with the ATI brand of your video card. Those often don't work without the proprietary fglrx drivers. If this tip isn't enough, could you provide more detailed information about your own problem? It's hard to know just how similar to that other thread your own problem is from what you've said so far. For a start, do you also get
Quote:
Anyway , i can boot from CD, but when i try to boot from the hd ( with my old Linux installed" I'm getting :
"Verifying DMI ..... Success"
GRUB "

and silence after that...
Or a different error? Good luck.
 
Old 02-21-2011, 07:23 AM   #4
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The tech is allowed to mess with the BIOS- he built the machine for me. I had a "no disk in drive" error. All the CF/SD card readers got listed as drives. I'd accidently pulled the plug on the computer while it was running.
He did install a Radeon. I checked system on the XP drive.
Here's mine:

sudo dmidecode
# dmidecode 2.9
SMBIOS 2.2 present.
41 structures occupying 1560 bytes.
Table at 0x000F0000.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 19 bytes
BIOS Information
Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version: 6.00 PG
Release Date: 11/21/2006
Address: 0xE0000
Runtime Size: 128 kB
ROM Size: 512 kB
Characteristics:
ISA is supported
PCI is supported
PNP is supported
APM is supported
BIOS is upgradeable
BIOS shadowing is allowed
Boot from CD is supported
Selectable boot is supported
BIOS ROM is socketed
EDD is supported
5.25"/360 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
3.5"/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
Serial services are supported (int 14h)
Printer services are supported (int 17h)
CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
ACPI is supported
USB legacy is supported
LS-120 boot is supported
ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 25 bytes
System Information
Manufacturer:
Product Name:
Version:
Serial Number:
UUID: Not Present
Wake-up Type: Power Switch

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 188, 255 bytes
OEM-specific Type
Header and Data:
BC FF 02 00 4B 38 4E 50 54 44 52 41 4D 30 03 00
00 00 00 00 9F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 40 00 10 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 FF 02
00 5D 01 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 E0 3F 18 00 00 00 00 00 E0 3F 38 00 00 00
00 00 46 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 05 00 00 00 00
00 00 24 C2 6A 5D 20 13 13 08 10 04 01 00 5A 00
00 67 88 88 FF FE 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 00
00 00 16 18 16 18 17 18 17 18 16 00 00 00 30 00
30 00 18 17 18 18 18 18 18 17 18 16 17 17 17 17
17 16 17 16 2F 00 2F 00 22 12 11 20 20 22 20 00
22 12 11 20 20 22 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Strings:






Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 160 bytes
BIOS Information
Vendor: Not Specified
Version: Not Specified
Release Date: Not Specified
ROM Size: 64 kB
Characteristics:
BIOS Revision: 0.0

Invalid entry length (0). DMI table is broken! Stop.

weezy@541t53adth-0-DMI-table-is-broken-Stop:~$

If you look at the first entry - Handle 0x0000
it's repeated in the last entry. Except the last entry has no info in it. Why twice? And why are the bytes larger in the 2nd entry?
The link had the same thing. Why was the last entry different?

I'm not booting from CD. I boot from the BIOS if I want to change drives. What I did manage to install is running with no crashing.

I'm also not used to a program telling me I don't have "permission" to view/do anything. I loaded the program - I can also wipe it off! I'm trying to find out if an HP printer can call home without my permission. Ubuntu just found the printer and it works, but I had to block it in Windows XP, even though I only installed the driver. It couldn't find an internet connection and complained every 2 minutes. (I had disabled connection in XP) I also like to read everything just to know what is where.

I also entered no information of any kind when I installed Ubuntu. My personal information simply does not go on the computer. I keep no address book, list of contacts, passwords, at all. I don't know if not entering any information caused a problem.

I was nicely surprised at how usable Ubuntu was from the start, but getting extra stuff done like installing programs that are not in the software list is confusing. And where Ubuntu puts what is confusing, too.

I'm trying to work my way through "Ubuntu for Non-geeks" but a lot of the book is assuming that you are dual booting with a partition, and I'm not. If you know of any other books like that, it would help. I don't watch video tutorials, I hate them. I want to physically mark, dog-ear, whatever so I can find the info later.

There's also stuff that I don't do. I don't keep a music playlist, only watch the occasional Utube vid, don't really use Office. (I have Indesign on XP) could care less about surround sound music. So half the videos and books are useless. If the information that I'm after is in a chapter about any of those subjects, I wouldn't see it.

If it is that ATI Radeon, I can find a driver, but probably wouldn't be able to install it.

Thanks

Last edited by weezyrider; 02-21-2011 at 07:31 AM.
 
Old 02-22-2011, 12:54 PM   #5
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Still, if you ask, your tech should tell you if he did flash the BIOS.

Quote:
Originally Posted by weezyrider View Post
The tech is allowed to mess with the BIOS- he built the machine for me.
Well, if you say so. For my money, I expect a tech who I've paid for a job to tell me in advance if doing the work I've paid it to do requires other operations that would put the computer's existing function at risk, and a BIOS flash certainly fits that description! And if you ask after the fact, giving you a simple yes/no doesn't seem like a lot to ask of a tech either. $0.02, ymmv, etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by weezyrider View Post
I'm not booting from CD. I boot from the BIOS if I want to change drives. What I did manage to install is running with no crashing.
I tend to leave it alone when that happens. :-)
Quote:
Originally Posted by weezyrider View Post
I'm also not used to a program telling me I don't have "permission" to view/do anything.
What was it you said the computer isn't giving you permission to do? Files and directories have permissions, which you can view using ls -hal and edit using chmod. Both commands likely will need to be preceded by sudo. But don't run around elevating permissions willy-nilly, either, especially outside your /home/username folder, and even there be especially careful of messing with files that start with a . because those are config files, and giving files anything but exactly the right permissions can break the processes that use them, and then you'll just have to re-install Ubuntu anyway. Or, if you like to see how changing things willy-nilly breaks your equipment, then go ahead and do that. :-) Just know that could be the result. HTH.
 
Old 02-22-2011, 06:27 PM   #6
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I've always read files just to see what they were - I usually look, then ask in a forum what the file does. I was just trying to find out where Ubuntu stuck programs that you downloaded. It I d/l CdC and it was not in the downloads folder. Only stuff from Firefox was. I think I was just trying to open a bin folder in my user account, and I was told I didn't have permission.
Search doesn't. It gives you no options. If I search in Windows, I can at least type in just the date the file was modified and find it that way.
Some Stellarium/Ubuntu users were trying to help in the Astronomy forum. Told me to use sudo app-get --purge remove
Terminal told me it was a bad command and couldn't execute.

I know where the program CdC is I redownloaded it, but I don't know how to tell Ubuntu to find it. I unzipped it, but it was in a folder, not one of the box-type icons.

Ubuntu has to cooperate somewhat if I'm not messing with a system file.
 
Old 02-22-2011, 08:07 PM   #7
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The tech is allowed to mess with the BIOS- he built the machine for me. I had a "no disk in drive" error.
When I have this problem I clean the lense and it's cured.
I've gotten a few used dvd players and they've all worked afterwards. Sometimes I have to disassemble to manually clean the lense.
 
Old 02-23-2011, 07:22 AM   #8
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That wasn't the problem. I had a built in zip drive that died. It was disconnected, but the error message still persisted. Windows apparently would not recognize the disconnect. I found the answer in a registry edit. The BIOS has the 2 hard drives listed as they should be after the zip was disconnected, and changing a value in the registry got rid of the error window. The error was doing nothing. I'd pull the message down out of my way and continue with Photoshop. It was just a PITA.
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Old 02-24-2011, 08:33 AM   #9
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Still no luck. I've noticed that a few other things aren't working right. Could these be caused by the Radeon card?
I can't change the size of the fonts in FF using userchrome. It's the actual fonts on the menu bars that are too big.
It takes forever for a bitmapped graphic to print. A vector graphic is fairly fast.
Thanks
W
 
Old 02-24-2011, 09:24 PM   #10
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"apt-get" not "app-get"

This I can help you with.
Quote:
Originally Posted by weezyrider View Post
Some Stellarium/Ubuntu users were trying to help in the Astronomy forum. Told me to use sudo app-get --purge remove
Terminal told me it was a bad command and couldn't execute.
It is a bad command! Instead, do
Code:
sudo apt-get --purge remove
Quote:
Originally Posted by weezyrider View Post
I know where the program CdC is I redownloaded it, but I don't know how to tell Ubuntu to find it. I unzipped it, but it was in a folder, not one of the box-type icons.
Do
Code:
find /home CdC
 
Old 02-25-2011, 09:35 AM   #11
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I was typing from memory, so that app was an error.
I finally reinstalled Ubuntu. I found out where that "0-DMI-table-is-broken" came from. It was on the CD. The entry box for computer name has it listed by default I guess. I cleared that box and now the terminal looks right. Playing around messed up everything, so even home folder wouldn't open. So I reinstalled. I selected erase and use drive. So there's no partitions of my choosing (Ubuntu itself made 2) and I'm not using Wubi.

Even on reinstallation, Stellarium won't run. It just doesn't respond to command or mouse click. I've had windows versions pull that, so it could be some hardware I have that it doesn't like. And it's Ubuntu/Stellarium. The XP drive is using the same 64bit for Photoshop and other Adobe products and is quite happy about it.
Most of the external stuff like tablet, laser printer, scanner work.

I notice I get about 5 choices when Ubuntu boots. I just let it go.

Where do you put downloaded files? I've always had FF ask. I usually download to desktop. And do files ready for download have open box look icons rather than folders?

I'll redownload and see what happens. See if I can find an slightly older version of Stellarium. BTW - using old video card and the same hardware, the latest version of Stellarium ran on Win 2K. Since the only thing that changed is the video card, and the OS on that drive, I'm thinking that's where the problem is.
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The other selections would be "memtest", "single-user" or "fail-safe" it's normal for these options.
 
  


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