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Old 03-26-2004, 10:49 PM   #1
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Question another ATAPI with cdrdao question


Trying to get my CD's running. K3b (v 0.9) gives me the error message. SO I go and find the latest ver of cdrdao (1.1.8) tried installing this it told me that I needed libsigc++ found that and installed then I was told I needed libgtkmm2.0 found that and installed tried again - cdrdao tells me I now need libgnomecanvasmm2.0 found one source for that but it is corrupted - so I still cant install cdrdao to get K3b running!!!!!
do I need to d/l the source of cdrdao instead of the rpm?, how do I use the source (remember I'm new at this - show me once and I'll remember)

if I use the source - do I unistall the packages that I just installed?

Why wouldn't the 'new' ver of cdrdao (or any upgrade for that matter come with the libraies needed) or is this the purpose of the source and I need to compile the program

is this typical of things under Linux?

mandrake 9.2




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Old 03-27-2004, 08:42 AM   #2
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Re: another ATAPI with cdrdao question

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Originally posted by DB9
Trying to get my CD's running. K3b (v 0.9) gives me the error message. SO I go and find the latest ver of cdrdao (1.1.8) tried installing this it told me that I needed libsigc++ found that and installed then I was told I needed libgtkmm2.0 found that and installed tried again - cdrdao tells me I now need libgnomecanvasmm2.0 found one source for that but it is corrupted - so I still cant install cdrdao to get K3b running!!!!!
do I need to d/l the source of cdrdao instead of the rpm?, how do I use the source (remember I'm new at this - show me once and I'll remember)

if I use the source - do I unistall the packages that I just installed?

Why wouldn't the 'new' ver of cdrdao (or any upgrade for that matter come with the libraies needed) or is this the purpose of the source and I need to compile the program

is this typical of things under Linux?

mandrake 9.2




TIA
Steve
What error message is K3B giving? Also, gtk libraries are for Gnome and K3B is a KDE app, so I'm a little confused why you are having a problem, unless you are running Gnome and trying to run K3B.

Since you are running Mandrake, you should be able to find packages (rpm) and not have to use source. Getting the source means you will just compile them yourself. You can if you want to, it's just not really necessary.

As for the "new" versions and libraries, nothing comes with libraries, unless they are for the specific app you are downloading. If the libraries are system-wide, the developer's count on them being present in the system. They will tell you which versions you need though. Normally, when you are looking for software in Linux, the individual providing the software should be kind enough to tell you the dependencies and possibly even provide them for you to download along with the program you are looking for.

As for being typical in Linux, that's hard to say. Yes, software installation can be a pain sometimes, but generally it's pretty smooth. It is vastly different than Windows, however, so if that's what you are used to, it will seem different. The good thing about Linux and software installation, is you can actually remove things completely when you uninstall them, unlike Windows.

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Old 03-27-2004, 09:11 AM   #3
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Paul thanks for the reply..

I'm running KDE

"No support for ATAPI with cdrdao
You will not be able to use all your reading devices as copy sources since there is at least one not configured to use SCSI emulation and your system does not support ATAPI with cdrdao.
Solution: The best and recommended solution is to enable ide-scsi (SCSI emulation) for all writer devices. This way you won't have any problems."

is the error message (how to do a screen capture in Linux?)

I have a Creative CD5233E CDRom whick is shown as ATAPI interface and a LG 8080B CDR that is shown as Generic SCSI. I will assume that the problem is with the reader. I'm at a loss to understand the instructions that I see posted else where. I did run K3b setup from a root console and followed the defaults all the way through now I get

"Unable to find cdrecord executable
K3b uses cdrecord to actually write cds. Without cdrecord K3b won't be able to properly initialize the writing devices.
Solution: Install the cdrtools package which contains cdrecord.
Unable to find cdrdao executable
K3b uses cdrdao to actually write cds. Without cdrdao you won't be able to copy cds, write cue/bin images, write CD-TEXT, and write audio cds on-the-fly.
Solution: Install the cdrdao package."

RPMDrake says that both are installed.


I looked for cdrtools on RPMDrake but found nothing - I guess I could uninstall K3b and such and start again - I'm not sure if I messed up something or am missing something.

if I look at fstab I find

/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,sync,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /mnt/zip supermount dev=/dev/sda4,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd /mnt/cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd /mnt/cdwriter auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0


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Old 03-27-2004, 09:50 AM   #4
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K3B

Quote:
Originally posted by DB9


Paul thanks for the reply..

I'm running KDE

"No support for ATAPI with cdrdao
You will not be able to use all your reading devices as copy sources since there is at least one not configured to use SCSI emulation and your system does not support ATAPI with cdrdao.
Solution: The best and recommended solution is to enable ide-scsi (SCSI emulation) for all writer devices. This way you won't have any problems."

is the error message (how to do a screen capture in Linux?)

I have a Creative CD5233E CDRom whick is shown as ATAPI interface and a LG 8080B CDR that is shown as Generic SCSI. I will assume that the problem is with the reader. I'm at a loss to understand the instructions that I see posted else where. I did run K3b setup from a root console and followed the defaults all the way through now I get

"Unable to find cdrecord executable
K3b uses cdrecord to actually write cds. Without cdrecord K3b won't be able to properly initialize the writing devices.
Solution: Install the cdrtools package which contains cdrecord.
Unable to find cdrdao executable
K3b uses cdrdao to actually write cds. Without cdrdao you won't be able to copy cds, write cue/bin images, write CD-TEXT, and write audio cds on-the-fly.
Solution: Install the cdrdao package."

RPMDrake says that both are installed.


I looked for cdrtools on RPMDrake but found nothing - I guess I could uninstall K3b and such and start again - I'm not sure if I messed up something or am missing something.

if I look at fstab I find

/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,sync,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /mnt/zip supermount dev=/dev/sda4,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd /mnt/cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd /mnt/cdwriter auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0


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Steve,

It looks like your writer is actually scsi, correct? Your reader is ide? Ok, I am treading in unfamiliar territory here because I've never used scsi, or K3B. I assume you've looked at the K3B site and done google searches on this issue, right? I just did a little myself, but didn't come up with much. Apparently K3B has some options you can set for your particular reader/writer. Have you setup everything in K3B? Check out K3B's web site if you haven't done so already. This is a very popular CD burning package, so I know someone has encountered a similar problem. Also, search on LQ for posts on this issue - someone may have posted an answer to your problem already.

As for screen captures, that depends on your desktop - I am certain KDE has a utility to do that, but since I don't use it, I can't tell you what it is.

I am afraid I am not being much help here...any Mandrake/KDE gurus about that can help out?
 
Old 03-27-2004, 10:00 AM   #5
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Both drives (reader and writer) are both IDE
 
Old 03-27-2004, 10:20 AM   #6
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Both drives (reader and writer) are both IDE
Hmm, it seems odd to me the setup in your fstab. Normally my CDROM is setup as /dev/hdc with a symbolic link to /dev/cdrom, but if both devices work fine for reading, I'm sure your distro has set them up correctly. I guess it just seems strange they appear to be setup like scsi devices.
 
Old 04-07-2004, 02:19 PM   #7
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Talking K3B

Hi have you managed to sort your problem out yet?? I`m asking as I have the exact same problem and its driving me mad.I also have Mandrake 9.2. Cheers Steve
 
  


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