cool its simply control down thanks
this is now my favorite window manager
just one other question...i installed the xfce-cpugraph-plugin
and restarted xfce4 but i don't have the cpugraph in my taskbar..i looked in the settings but couldn't find anything
does anyoen know how i get that to appear in the taskbar?
i tried the obvious like running cpugraph, xfce-cpugraph, etc.. in the console