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Old 02-04-2019, 06:24 AM   #1
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Windows and Linux Click on the BBC


My friend told me about how windows is being overtaken by Mac and Linux in a program on the BBC called click.

Cannot find the program anyone know of any other reports about this?
 
Old 02-04-2019, 06:35 AM   #2
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My friend told me about how windows is being overtaken by Mac and Linux in a program on the BBC called click.

Cannot find the program anyone know of any other reports about this?
It's true that market share for Linux is increasing, and more and more people are using it than back in the day. So while I'd agree it's becoming more popular, not sure exactly what you mean by "Windows is being overtaken by Mac and Linux" ?

I guess one reason is that Linux is more user friendly than what it was 10 years ago, particularly if you go further back than that. Another reason might be that *some* PC manufacturers sell *some* desktops with some distribution of Linux installed - depending on the manufacturer.

Do you have a link for this "Click" program, where they talk about this?
 
Old 02-04-2019, 06:36 AM   #3
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I've recommended to the mods that this thread be moved to a more general forum - it is not specifically related to Linux Mint.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 06:50 AM   #4
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Do you have a link for this "Click" program, where they talk about this?
I cannot find one with this actually it is a BBC program I looked but could not find it.
I looked here https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/n13xtmd5

Let me know if the link does not work as BBC programs are not usually allowed out of the UK?
 
Old 02-04-2019, 06:54 AM   #5
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My friend told me about how windows is being overtaken by Mac and Linux
Your friend is wrong, so very, very wrong. Windows holds 80%+ of the desktop market. While it's true that MacOS and Linux are gaining in popularity they are far from overtaking Windows on the desktop.
 
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:00 AM   #6
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Your friend is wrong, so very, very wrong. Windows holds 80%+ of the desktop market. While it's true that MacOS and Linux are gaining in popularity they are far from overtaking Windows on the desktop.
The program actually showed the opposite my friend says and with Linux Mint 19.1 and Playonlinux I feel Mint is really going to take off.

I also found this twitter and watched the video about Mint and Windows my friend who fixes PC's would not even try Linux. After the program on click he has changed his mind big time and is installing today.

Do you know when you use Windows you agreed to allow them to do anything with your data and allow the virus in? www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE4SwkJ0Fys
 
Old 02-04-2019, 07:04 AM   #7
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I've recommended to the mods that this thread be moved to a more general forum - it is not specifically related to Linux Mint.
I disagree it is all about Linux Mint which now is really leading the Linux distro's.

Do you know the figures for this as I think they will be interesting?
 
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Ah, so 2019 is going to be the Year of the Linux desktop?

At long last...

We should never been under any illusions. As a desktop operating system, Linux will probably always be marginal. But I'm perfectly fine with that.

In saying that, I hope you find your program. You might be better to write to them directly to ask when that episode was aired.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 07:12 AM   #9
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I disagree it is all about Linux Mint which now is really leading the Linux distro's.

Do you know the figures for this as I think they will be interesting?
It's your claim - you come up with the figures.

Due to the way that Linux distros do not (with few exceptions) track their users, it is almost impossible to tell which distros are used more than others (the Distro Watch figures are fun but effectively useless). I can say with some surety however that Ubuntu and RHEL are used on far more machines than Linux Mint. Anyway, your question relates to Linux, Macs and Windows in general and would receive better exposure in a more general LQ subforum.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 07:13 AM   #10
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I cannot find one with this actually it is a BBC program I looked but could not find it.
I looked here https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/n13xtmd5

Let me know if the link does not work as BBC programs are not usually allowed out of the UK?
The link worked for me, and I don't live in the UK.

To add to what I was saying before; while I agree with TenTenths about Windows market share on the desktop, Linux is by far, far more popular in most other markets - Android does in fact use the Linux kernel whichever way you look at it. Android has by far has the most market share in the smartphone and alike markets. Same with the supercomputer market.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 07:18 AM   #11
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The link worked for me, and I don't live in the UK.

To add to what I was saying before; while I agree with TenTenths about Windows market share on the desktop, Linux is by far, far more popular in most other markets - Android does in fact use the Linux kernel whichever way you look at it. Android has by far has the most market share in the smartphone and alike markets. Same with the supercomputer market.
From the wording of the OP's original post, and the mention of Windows and Macs, I assume that he was referring to the use of Linux as a desktop operating system.

I'm actually not a fan of this "Android is Linux" argument. Android uses the Linux kernel, agreed, but it is not a Linux distro nor a GNU/Linux operating system (here we go again, JSB, with our argument from another thread ). I would love to see widespread adoption of Linux on mobile devices, but Android ain't it.
 
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From the wording of the OP's original post, and the mention of Windows and Macs, I assume that he was referring to the use of Linux as a desktop operating system.
I'd assume so too.

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I'm actually not a fan of this "Android is Linux" argument. Android uses the Linux kernel, agreed, but it is not a Linux distro nor a GNU/Linux operating system (here we go again, JSB, with our argument from another thread ). I would love to see widespread adoption of Linux on mobile devices, but Android ain't it.
While I agree Android isn't GNU/Linux, given Android still uses the Linux kernel, and Linux itself is just an OS kernel, then until Google writes their own kernel for Android, then Android is still a Linux based system - it's just not GNU/Linux. How did I know this would turn into a "Is Android Linux or not debate?".

But then again, what exactly is the argument here? Is it "should Linux be called GNU/Linux, or just Linux?" or "Is Android a Linux distribution or not?", or perhaps, "can we just use the generic term Linux to refer to a complete OS, like Linux Mint, etc?"...
 
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Click is a small (about 10 or 15 minutes), regular item on the BBC 24 hour news channel and is available on BBC iplayer. It also shows up on the 'Tech' section of the BBC news web site.
 
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to the OP, if the discussion is desktop OS, than MS Windows OWNS that world hands own.

If we are talking about embedded devices, mobile devices, tablets, cars, etc... than Linux rules them all and has for years.

So it all boils down to what you are looking at.
 
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I disagree it is all about Linux Mint which now is really leading the Linux distro's.
Do you know the figures for this as I think they will be interesting?
Define "leading" please?
As you've asked for figures, I conclude that it's rather your opinion or feeling...
 
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