Weird: thunar or kde-devel ?? debian prob ?

frenchn00b · 09-03-2007, 02:23 PM

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apt-get install thunar
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  gamin libgamin0 libthunar-vfs-1-2
The following packages will be REMOVED
  kde-devel kdebase-dev kdelibs4-dev kdesdk kspy libfam-dev libfam0 libkonq4-dev
The following NEW packages will be installed
  gamin libgamin0 libthunar-vfs-1-2 thunar
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tower05:/home/skype/sources.tar.gz/foopanel-0.1.0# echo "apt-get install thunar" >> /root/checkpackages.sh
tower05:/home/skype/sources.tar.gz/foopanel-0.1.0# apt-get install thunar
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  gamin libgamin0 libthunar-vfs-1-2
The following packages will be REMOVED
  kde-devel kdebase-dev kdelibs4-dev kdesdk kspy libfam-dev libfam0 libkonq4-dev
The following NEW packages will be installed
  gamin libgamin0 libthunar-vfs-1-2 thunar
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 8 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/1242kB of archives.
After unpacking 5435kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 173350 files and directories currently installed.)
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Thunar or not thunar, then not kde-devel or kde-devel, make your choice ?
(Debian etch stable)

nx5000 · 09-03-2007, 02:32 PM

The adviced method is to use aptitude

frenchn00b · 09-03-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nx5000

The adviced method is to use aptitude

I used regular apt-get
(no automatix & no aptitude, just regular apt-get)

nx5000 · 09-03-2007, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frenchn00b

I used regular apt-get
(no automatix & no aptitude, just regular apt-get)

Yes but it's easier to use aptitude. I used apt-get for a year and now using aptitude, won't get back.
When you have a conflict, it will try to solve the problem and ask you what solution you prefer.

frenchn00b · 09-03-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nx5000

Yes but it's easier to use aptitude. I used apt-get for a year and now using aptitude, won't get back.
When you have a conflict, it will try to solve the problem and ask you what solution you prefer.

Thanks, I have to try too. Wouldnt you think there is a bug or package making failure (in that case) ? With Debian that's very seldom such things.

nx5000 · 09-03-2007, 03:10 PM

Take care when you switch to aptitude there are a few stuffs to run. Go in debian subforum and do a search.
For your problem, I doubt it; you are running Stable right? Fully stable I hope ;-) not mix of this and a mix of that?
fam and gamin conflicts, they do the same thing. Actually I don't really see a bug in what you get.
Try to reinstall kde-devel to see.

frenchn00b · 09-04-2007, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nx5000

Take care when you switch to aptitude there are a few stuffs to run. Go in debian subforum and do a search.
For your problem, I doubt it; you are running Stable right? Fully stable I hope ;-) not mix of this and a mix of that?
fam and gamin conflicts, they do the same thing. Actually I don't really see a bug in what you get.
Try to reinstall kde-devel to see.

Then thunar disappears. It goes to the Darkness

I have stable sources.list normally

nx5000 · 09-04-2007, 04:41 PM

I quickly looked at etch (I run lenny/sid so I browsed the debian webpage) and:

kde-devel depends on kdebase
kdebase depends on kdebase-bin
kdebase-bin depends on libfam0
libfam0 replaces libgamin0
thunar depends on libthunar-vfs-1-2
libthunar-vfs-1-2 depends on libgamin0
libgamin0 is in conflict with libfam0

So.. it's not a bug, it's a feature. Either kde-devel or thunar, you choose

frenchn00b · 09-04-2007, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nx5000

I quickly looked at etch (I run lenny/sid so I browsed the debian webpage) and:

kde-devel depends on kdebase
kdebase depends on kdebase-bin
kdebase-bin depends on libfam0
libfam0 replaces libgamin0
thunar depends on libthunar-vfs-1-2
libthunar-vfs-1-2 depends on libgamin0
libgamin0 is in conflict with libfam0

So.. it's not a bug, it's a feature. Either kde-devel or thunar, you choose

It's a feature ?

There is a point I miss ... I do not understand really why

nx5000 · 09-05-2007, 04:57 AM

libgamin0 and libfam0 do the same thing and can not coexist together.
kde-devel depends on libfam0 and thunar depends on libgamin0. so kde-devel etch is incompatible with thunar etch. It's a decision of the maintainers that they used both their stuffs.

This is solved in the next debian releases I think. hé gamin

has been removed due to problems like this.

I just tried on lenny (could be that etch thunar version is different that lenny one) with APTITUDE and it solved the problem:
thunar recommends gamin but I rejected the installation of gamin and then looks like I can get thunar and kde-devel.

Time to use aptitude

frenchn00b · 09-05-2007, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nx5000

libgamin0 and libfam0 do the same thing and can not coexist together.
kde-devel depends on libfam0 and thunar depends on libgamin0. so kde-devel etch is incompatible with thunar etch. It's a decision of the maintainers that they used both their stuffs.

Could not life be made simple ?

I am always & daily wondering what bunch of crap people are able to program (not talking about linux), wondering if they care or think a bit further what for they program a soft.