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Old 12-22-2002, 04:36 AM   #1
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some very basic noobie questions!


Hello everyone,

me and my friend decided to start with linux and we picked slackware to start off with, which i know is probably one of the toughest but my friend wanted slackware so badly.

Anyways, after the installation we got into some problems which i hope you people can solve (im quite sure of that because it shouldnt be that difficult)

problems

1. We cant open X, we tried startX but it doesnt work. I tried this command to locate the file : find -name / startX -print <--- but it didnt worked either.

2. We downloaded BitchX and we got it working and all, but we dont really like the program, do you guys know a better version of this IRC for linux ?

3. We want to try and sent messages thru the network we are on to eachother, does anyone have a readme or knows where we can get some good readme files ?

Well if you guys could help us out with this we'd be very happy, i know we probably are doing a stupid thing with learning linux with slackware but forget about that please just answer the questions or give us some other tips

TheSeeker
 
Old 12-22-2002, 04:57 AM   #2
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You don't hear me saying you're stupid! I'd rather say brave. Slackware is a fine distro, but indeed it doesn't have wizards for this that and the other thing. It's a hands-on distro where you need to dig in, read up, have some patience to learn how things work. But that IMHO is fun and a satisfying learning experience.

1. Do not type X with a capital, just "startx" (linux commands are case-sensitive), if it still doesn't work:
- make sure you have X installed (but I guess you did),
- find out if your graphics card is supported under the X version you're working with, if yes then
- do a xf86config (for which you need to know specifications of your monitor and graphics card)
and then startx again.

2. There are many irc programs for linux, but I haven't tried others (yet), so someone else may answer this for you.

3. Along what lines are you thinking? Maybe an ICQ program?

If you haven't read the Slackware Linux Essentials, do! @ http://www.slackware.org/book/

For readme's I'd suggest the documentation (HOWTOs, FAQs, guides, man pages) @ http://www.tldp.org/
 
Old 12-22-2002, 04:58 AM   #3
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1) Have you tried 'startx' ?
2) Do you prefer IRC client for console or a GUI one? I guess there is one or more graphical installed, so you may try them (after running X)?
3) Would you like to send emails orr use another method?
 
Old 12-22-2002, 05:03 AM   #4
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Hello there. I can help you with the first thing.
You got to remember that linux (and all other *nix'es) are case sensative. That means that startx is not hte same as startX or Startx. You should type startx, and if X is correctly installed and configured, it will work.
I can also help you a bit with the third thing. Use the command "talk". If it say's "command not found", just install it.
You should do something like "talk <name>@<ip-adress>, where name is the name that you friend uses to log in to his machine, ad ip-adress is the ip adress of your friends machine. You can find out the ip adress by doing "ifconfig". You will see something like :

" sohail@linux:~$ /sbin/ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:80:C6:07:B7:66
inet addr:79.46.21.24 Bcast:62.45.23.255 Mask:255.255.252.0"

As you can see, my ip adress is 79.46.21.24

(Oh and by the way to any one who is reading, that's not my real ip adress)

Last edited by qanopus; 12-22-2002 at 05:05 AM.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 05:05 AM   #5
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hey thanks for the quick replies !

about startx, when i type startx or startX it says file not found, what me and my friend thought about is that maybe the file is located somewhere else so we tried to find it with find -name etc.

We installed slackware fully so i guess x should be with that.

about sending mailes thru network

i ment sending messages from the root and let them show up on the other pc also in his screen, so like with msdos netsend etc.

i think my first goal should be to get x working now
 
Old 12-22-2002, 05:11 AM   #6
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well, first off al what graphics card do you have?
What I always do, is go to the site of the company that makes those cards. Find out if you can download the right drivers there.
Don't worry of your card not being supported, it probably is.

Last edited by qanopus; 12-22-2002 at 05:16 AM.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 05:16 AM   #7
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hey schatoor

My gfx card is an geforce4 mx440, we tried to use xf86config
and xf86setup but it keeps on saying command not found, we dont know what to do its really frustrating.

maar in iedergeval erg bedankt!
 
Old 12-22-2002, 05:25 AM   #8
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He, I have the same card! It works perfactly here.
(ook nederlander? Toch engels "praten" hoor)
Here is how I got it to work. I'm using bedian linux now, but before that I was using SuSE, which is much more user friendly. I created a XF86config file by using SaX. ( XF86config or XF86config-4 file is the X configuration file and normaly it is in "/etc/X11/"). SaX made a very good config file and although I swiched distro's, I still use that file.
What you can try, is using my config file as a refrence to how things should be set-up with that card. I woulden't just use my file because it doen't only configure the graphics card, but also the monitor, mousem, ect.
You should realy take care when you configure the monitor, beacause wrong setting can destroy it.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 05:25 AM   #9
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Quote:
My gfx card is an geforce4 mx440, we tried to use xf86config
and xf86setup but it keeps on saying command not found, we dont know what to do its really frustrating.
It looks to me like you don't have X installed. Do you have a /usr/X11R6 directory? Programs like xf86config should be in /usr/X11R6/bin.

Alex
 
Old 12-22-2002, 05:35 AM   #10
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Originally posted by llama_meme
It looks to me like you don't have X installed. Do you have a /usr/X11R6 directory? Programs like xf86config should be in /usr/X11R6/bin.

Alex
yes i have a dir usr/x11r6/bin BUT xf86config isnt in there, i do see something like xfree86setup i tried to execute it but it said you must be logged in as root, but i WAS logged in as root.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 05:45 AM   #11
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Originally posted by schatoor
He, I have the same card! It works perfactly here.
(ook nederlander? Toch engels "praten" hoor)
Here is how I got it to work. I'm using bedian linux now, but before that I was using SuSE, which is much more user friendly. I created a XF86config file by using SaX. ( XF86config or XF86config-4 file is the X configuration file and normaly it is in "/etc/X11/"). SaX made a very good config file and although I swiched distro's, I still use that file.
What you can try, is using my config file as a refrence to how things should be set-up with that card. I woulden't just use my file because it doen't only configure the graphics card, but also the monitor, mousem, ect.
You should realy take care when you configure the monitor, beacause wrong setting can destroy it.
You were right we found the xf86config file but we dont know what to do next, we figured maybe you can help us by login in our root. Maybe you have MSN or something, i got a laptop on windows here so maybe you can talk with us on there. if you dont wanna help us its ok aswell

anyways let us hear what you want.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 06:00 AM   #12
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I could mail you my config file. But there is one more thing you got to do first. You got to go to the nVidia web site and download the drivers. The come in all sorts of formats, but since you are using slackware, I would download the *.tar.gz files
So here is what you do. Go to this link
Download the nvidia glx and nvidia kernel drivers and follow what the say in the readme on the same site.
Do that first. I you have done that, report back.

Last edited by qanopus; 12-22-2002 at 06:03 AM.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 06:06 AM   #13
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Ok, I scrud up a bit. I first posted you the wrong link, but I re-edited my post to point it to the right link
Oh and I would advise you to trust no one with your root pass word, unless they are close friends.

Last edited by qanopus; 12-22-2002 at 06:10 AM.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 06:13 AM   #14
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Originally posted by schatoor
Ok, I scrud up a bit. I first posted you the wrong link, but I re-edited my post to point it to the right link
Oh and I would advise you to trust no one with your root pass word, unless they are close friends.
yes i wont give my root pass to everyone, but its just that there isnt anything interesting on this pc anyways, and because you know so much i'd figure you could help us, and i trust you not to fuck us up
 
Old 12-22-2002, 06:25 AM   #15
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MHi schatoor, and the others, i am a friend of the seeker, s





itting here next tto me.


I get some error to Seeker to, :

install: cannot create regular file ' //usr/x11r6/lib/modules/drivers' : no such file directory.
Make *** install error 1
 
  


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