Reasons why people don't want to switch to Linux (and overcoming them).

jamison20000e · 04-10-2014, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 273

I'm not sure that's relevant to the premise of this thread.
Just because you (and I as it happens) value software freedom doesn't mean others do.
Freedom may be an argument for using Linux but it is not an argument against people's reasons for not using it.

Did you read the book, I guess we could all have different interpretations but not relevant?

jamison20000e · 04-10-2014, 09:34 PM

We can't overcome reasons if people think their time should be worth more when there billionaires, not to mention extreme poverty!

enorbet · 04-10-2014, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by suicidaleggroll

I installed pipelight. Netflix still doesn't work and the installation changed the fonts on my entire system. Fantastic.

Sorry for your difficulty but it is doubtful that you followed the instructions carefully since it is a browser plugin and should have NO system-wide effect. Here is the Suse specifics Also Pipelight has a tester webpage that can show you what's working and what's not. I have it working in Slackware, Ubuntu, OpenSuse and SolydK.

suicidaleggroll · 04-10-2014, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by enorbet

Sorry for your difficulty but it is doubtful that you followed the instructions carefully since it is a browser plugin and should have NO system-wide effect.

I know it shouldn't, but it did. My fonts are still stuck looking like crap, and I'm not the only one.
https://answers.launchpad.net/pipeli...uestion/236496
http://askubuntu.com/questions/41282...tf-mscorefonts

"Followed the instructions carefully"...there are four instructions. Add a repo, update, install, and update the plugin. What on earth could possibly have been screwed up in those four steps? There was a lot of crap that was pulled in as part of the installation, clearly one of them is causing problems, but I have no way of knowing which one. I uninstalled pipelight, but it made no difference, it was likely one of the dependencies.

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Originally Posted by enorbet

Also Pipelight has a tester webpage that can show you what's working and what's not.

And their webpage says everything is working, but go to Netflix and there's the "Could not load Silverlight plugin" error along with a nice error in the terminal:

Code:

wine: Unhandled page fault on write access to 0x7c9af000 at address 0xf750264c (thread 0023), starting debugger...
*** glibc detected *** /usr/share/pipelight/pluginloader.exe: double free or corruption (out): 0x7c8e1d60 ***
err:seh:raise_exception Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0 addr 0x7d74c448
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] ../common/common.c:183:receiveCommand(): unable to receive data.

I'll just chalk it up as another one of the MANY Linux Netflix "solutions" that over-promises and under-delivers, and spend the rest of my evening trying to fix these damn fonts.

suicidaleggroll · 04-10-2014, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by suicidaleggroll

and spend the rest of my evening trying to fix these damn fonts.

Got it. It was the "fetchmsttfonts" dependency. I had to re-install pipelight, then use the -u flag in zypper when re-uninstalling it to pull out the dependencies - mingw32 and fetchmsttfonts. As soon as fetchmsttfonts was gone all of the system and browser fonts instantly reverted back to the way they were.

273 · 04-11-2014, 01:13 AM

Thanks suicidaleggroll -- I've been putting off installing Pipelight as I've a working Win8 VM I can use and I was worried about the exact kind of problem you experienced. I need to take the leap before the evaluation license runs out though if I want to continue being able to use Netflix.
I think this proves my point though, sadly, that some things people use can be a pain to get working on Linux.

Another application I forgot where the Linux version is broken is Google Earth 64 bit. Before anybody pipes up that they're running it fine on Fedora or people can just use the old version please look around this site and do some googling to see what I mean.

jamison20000e I'm a big believer in free (as in speech) software. However telling somebody to give up applications and devices use as part of their lifestyle in the name of a cause (no matter how noble) they don't believe in isn't likely to sway them. It's akin to saying the solution to people having to use cars to get to work is telling them
they're bad for the environment. The point has merit but it's not an answer to their problem.

Germany_chris · 04-11-2014, 01:38 AM

Pipelight is one of things that worked for me right off the bat, it's strange to me that you guys are having problems.

enorbet · 04-11-2014, 02:12 AM

Perhaps the reason I have it working on 4 distros with zero effect on my systems is the same reason Slackware is my main. I'm not fond of auto-dependency resolving. If it's going in my system, I want to be the one that put it there.

As this applies to Pipelight, if it is important to you, maybe try the vanilla install from Alien Bob. It should work on any Linux Distro and these instructions are very simple and thorough. There is ZERO chance it will affect your fonts or anything else on your system.... and it works great.

chrism01 · 04-12-2014, 11:45 PM

@273: if you do get Google Earth 64 bit working fine, please let me know

I've given up for now, but I'd like to have it.

entz · 04-13-2014, 09:49 AM

Most Cited Reason: Linux is simply too technical, and requires expert knowledge of computer science to even configure it.

273 · 04-13-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by entz

Most Cited Reason: Linux is simply too technical, and requires expert knowledge of computer science to even configure it.

That's true. I also think that this is one reason that can be overcome with encouragement as it isn't entirely true.

jamison20000e · 04-13-2014, 09:57 AM

As a long time Linux user that changes fast, especially since and thanks to those who fully understand lots of OSS.

maples · 04-13-2014, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by entz

Most Cited Reason: Linux is simply too technical, and requires expert knowledge of computer science to even configure it.

However, I think Ubuntu & Friends takes a lot of that out of the equation. Lubuntu was my first distro, and I knstalled it fine without even knowing what a partition was. However, knowing the techical side of things helps a lot.

schneidz · 04-13-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 273

That's true. I also think that this is one reason that can be overcome with encouragement as it isn't entirely true.

I think this would be best overcome with oem's.

Drakeo · 04-13-2014, 03:30 PM

As to my first reply. When you stop thinking Windows and you think Linux. your eyes will be open. Nothing is hard nothing is easier. There is just different steps.

Best way to learn a new language is to visit the country and try to learn it.
That is the same way for Linux. Please do your home work before traveling.

Name one thing M$ can do Linux doesn't