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Old 04-11-2016, 08:56 PM   #1
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Smile New laptop options for linux.


If you had to purchase a new system for linux what is the first brand you think of? I am using pclinuxos 2016.3 I installed on a ibm t500 currently but over time I know it will need replaced. I like system76 but are they good quality? I like the keyboard on the system which has a number keypad.

I am not in a hurry to replace my t500, though ideas for the future is a step in the right direction.

Thanks
 
Old 04-11-2016, 09:13 PM   #2
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Have you considered a native Linux machine from a vendor such as Zareason, ThinkPenguin, or System76?

I have two Zareasons, a laptop and desktop, and am quite happy with both.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 07:07 AM   #3
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Yes I have been looking at those machines. I will be removing ubuntu do not like it. Installing pclinuxos 2016.3 which has 4.4.4 kernel. I like the keyboard setup on the systems76 laptops. It has a number keypad I am in love lol. I will have to keep a eye on the PClinuxOS forum posts. I will ask questions before I purchase one.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 07:20 AM   #4
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If you had to purchase a new system for linux what is the first brand you think of? I am using pclinuxos 2016.3 I installed on a ibm t500 currently but over time I know it will need replaced. I like system76 but are they good quality? I like the keyboard on the system which has a number keypad.

I am not in a hurry to replace my t500, though ideas for the future is a step in the right direction.

Thanks
Thinkpad T series. They are well supported by linux. Alternatively some other kind of business class notebook or something that has linux pre-installed and is certified (ie. Dell XPS 13)
 
Old 04-12-2016, 11:33 AM   #5
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In light of Joanna Rutkowska's excellent presentation regarding Intel's longterm hardware model to put hardware in charge and lock it up so that "owners" cannot know if backdoors and "phone home" malware compromises security at the deepest level (see full presentation Joanna Reveals Hardware as Likely Evil Dictator Future - Hard-Wired Malware Since she details how they are already on the path, that documents exist outlining their business model in this regard, and the fact that Intel is uniquely positioned like no other to start reaping profits in the data mining windfall, it seems pretty certain they will choose company profits over user security.

I have been looking into old Lenovo T60s as she mentioned they perform well and have no such security "game over" issues and I've been rather pleased that they seem workable power-wise (at least the top versions which have dual core CPUs, support 4 GB RAM and 2048x1536 resolution) and are ridiculously cheap at $60-$120. Seems like a very reasonable tradeoff made possible by Linux performance/power ratio and Windows User early abandonment of such hardware due to increased minimum hardware requirements for their OpSys .
 
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Old 04-12-2016, 05:58 PM   #6
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IBM was my favorite for a long time.

I might consider an HP too.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 06:19 PM   #7
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MacBook or Surface Book. Depending on what you want your secondary OS to be.

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Old 04-12-2016, 08:21 PM   #8
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http://www.linpc.us comes with pclinux preinstalled
 
Old 04-12-2016, 08:28 PM   #9
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Just as an aside, Zareason lets you pick your distro. That's the primary reason I chose them.
 
Old 04-13-2016, 12:50 AM   #10
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Yes I have been looking at those machines. I will be removing ubuntu do not like it.
please keep in mind that you are likely to run into the same problems as everyone else in that case;
i've seen very frustrated people who bought themeselves "built for linux" machines (for hard $$$) and assumed that that means that one can install every linux without problems.
i think it makes much more sense to buy slightly matured & proven "normal" hardware, if you are planning to install your own anyway.
 
Old 04-13-2016, 08:55 PM   #11
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Very true.

I've no first hand experience with ThinkPenguin or System76, but I have heard some of their principles interviewed. They state that they make a point of using Linux-friendly components.

My two Zareasons are all-Intel, but I did a have hardware issue with them which illustrates ondoho's statement.

I got the laptop about 18 months or two years ago, the desktop about a year ago. I specified Slackware in my order, but, as the audio chipset was too new for Slackware's kernel, the audio did not work.

I tested Mint on the laptop and the audio worked fine, so I just installed it as I wanted to use it straightaway and already had a fondness for Mint.

As I did not use the desktop for audio (its primary purpose is to be a file server), I did nothing about the audio (more accurately, I tried and failed), and ultimately the problem resolved itself as Slackware --Current's kernel version caught up with the audio chipset. The audio now works great.

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Old 04-14-2016, 11:32 AM   #12
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Yes i know, there are posted on pclinuxos fourm of hardware issues but mainly the graphics driver is not the correct one loaded at install. I will have to study the issue problems and solutions that fixed issue others have had.
 
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ideas for the future is a step in the right direction.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/
 
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Old 05-27-2016, 09:38 AM   #14
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Thanks all for you input I will keep this in mind. As,for desktops,I have a home build i3 core and that is in the basement need a different case for this system since I used it as an analog TV dvr. Which now is replaced with a tivo bolt. I also have

I have not tried a linux live disc on this system above. I have a HP model e9210t that which is a quad core Win7 currently. Which I have tried pclinuxos mate which I like better less blotware in mate than kde. Less software to Uninstall.


The t500 seems stable with pclinuxos. My over all plan is to remove windows and use macs as my primary and PClinuxos or Linux distribution as my secondary os.

My issues I have is,I use dvd profiler for my movie collection which has no mac version. I could change to collectorz software on macs. I would like to use virtualbox in mac host.

Currently I do not have a Mac powerful enough to testart this. Thinking on this more I believe might be better to duel boot win7 and PClinuxos for now. I have configuration issues,with Linux a a host in Windows so going this route may be just problematic.

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Old 05-27-2016, 10:52 AM   #15
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Lenovo's business models all work very will with Linux in my experience.

I've put Linux on a t420s, t440, and my current machine is an X1 Carbon 3rd gen running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. They all are great (except the POS click pad on the t440) and have zero compatibility issues. My next laptop will almost certainly be another X1 Carbon, I love the form factor, battery life, and the ridiculous 1.5 GB/s PCIe SSD.

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