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Distribution: Mainly Devuan, antiX, & Void, with Tiny Core, Fatdog, & BSD thrown in.
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....absolute lover of Linux...... One recent issue was created when trying to update the maps on my Garmin Sat Nav. This had to be done by running a Windows VM.
That is a problem with Garmin not being Linux friendly, why can't they let you get updates over the internet.
I can repair most anything I can see. But, I don't yet have enough background to be tampering with an unstable operating system like Microsoft-based products inherently have. Sometimes, accidentally typing the wrong key combination can lead to surprises of which seem impossible to undo. For that reason, I dare not tamper with my computer's DOS, until I know fully as to what I'm doing. Incidently, I have Knoppix on a stick. But, have wussied out of installing it, beyond getting to a certain point, I admit. That's why I'd be willing to purchase a plug & play type Linux OS version DVD or other medium, to at least get going
I have been TRYING many Linux Distros over the past ten years. Either the wifi does not work or trying to watch videos is herky jerky
or just freezes. Installing any download is a pain in the rear or usually impossible. Even Firefox,Chrome or Opera. Usually something
popping up saying you or unauthorized to install or some other weird reason.There is just no simple download and install.
Too many this that and the other to try and do just to try to install something.
I have found Linux is still something to PLAY with and Not to depend on for a reliable operating system.
With Ubuntu 17.10 there are all sorts of printing, scanning and other issue. To numerous to list here without writing a 10 page paper. Also printing photos from gimp is an issue. Once example is paper size. Set the drop down for 4x6 and you get letter size. No excuse for this. It was improperly tested.
I hope rare and difficult hardware gets at least their specifications disclosed so that driver may be written. It is very frustrating to everyone who have the hardware minus the Linux driver support. Next is, personally I would want to remove systemd from Linux for a simpler option. Third, get the much needed CAD, Office software ported to Linux. E.g. Microsoft Office or equivalent, AutoCAD etc. Lastly, a desktop/laptop optimized distribution which has Gnome/Cinnamon/KDE and such option with a Debian base. Ubuntu does the same; But poorly.
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Distribution: Slackware/Salix while testing others
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For me, as a long time user and absolute lover of Linux, the one annoyance is that we still can't easily run many MS Windows based programs. Sometimes it's out of necessity as well. One recent issue was created when trying to update the maps on my Garmin Sat Nav. This had to be done by running a Windows VM.
Distribution: Slackware/Salix while testing others
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With Ubuntu 17.10 there are all sorts of printing, scanning and other issue. To numerous to list here without writing a 10 page paper. Also printing photos from gimp is an issue. Once example is paper size. Set the drop down for 4x6 and you get letter size. No excuse for this. It was improperly tested.
That's expected when running a short release, if you want less bugs stick to a stable distro or LTS etc... Remember, when you are running anything other than stable or LTS, you are the tester.
More drivers support for all printers, scanners, wifi cards and other specialty hardware.
When I am going to buy a new computer peripheral, I have to do some research if it works in linux. Like check the product's website if it has drivers for linux.
it's understandable that this thread attracts complainerism; what most of them miss is some reflection on the fact that it isn't linux' fault that drivers aren't always readily available.
distros either aren't allowed to bundle them, or they're closed source and the proprietors simply don't give a tinker's cuss about gnu/linux, or both.
it's not like gnu/linux devs are too stupid or unwilling to "Just Make It Work"...
even so i dare venture a guess that Linux supports much more hardware than the 2 big commercial and proprietary OS's together...
it's understandable that this thread attracts complainerism; what most of them miss is some reflection on the fact that it isn't linux' fault that drivers aren't always readily available.
distros either aren't allowed to bundle them, or they're closed source and the proprietors simply don't give a tinker's cuss about gnu/linux, or both.
it's not like gnu/linux devs are too stupid or unwilling to "Just Make It Work"...
even so i dare venture a guess that Linux supports much more hardware than the 2 big commercial and proprietary OS's together...
While you're right about why Linux doesn't and sometimes legally can't provide things people want such as drivers or proprietary applications, I don't know if I would immediately categorize mentioning it as "complainerism". It's just an acknowledged fact we have to live with to get all the many other benefits of using Linux.
In the grand scheme of things, Linux is still pretty new (a bit over 20) and since its beginning as a very small niche in the computing world, it has come to be fairly dominant in the server world and is now so well recognized that M$ had to add the Ubuntu CLI to Windows Enterprise to keep developers.
Who knows what will happen over the next 20 years? I've long given up on "the year of the Linux desktop", but it's not entirely impossible when you look at what was done with Android - although it certainly doesn't feel like Linux when viewed from the locked down GUI and almost total lack of privacy.
Almost all users just want things that work and do what they need done. They don't care what it takes underneath the covers.
I can't and don't want to debug the C compiler or anything inside the kernel. I'm just a user too, but at a slightly lower level than a business/non-technical user.
And, to my mind, there's nothing wrong with that. (Although I'm not condoning in any way, the exploitation of users by those who control proprietary resources and who use them to make users dependent upon them.)
I love Linux, but it definitely has warts. Being able to acknowledge its shortcomings is just part of accepting reality. I read part of The Linux Hater's Handbook - which is quite old, but still has a number of valid points to make.
You know you really love something/someone once the infatuation wears off and you see all the faults - and still love it/them.
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