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i wish i could see that page... not.
anyhow, if there's motivational memes about Linux and FOSS popping up on facebook now, all i can say is:
NO. i do not want GNU/Linux to succeed in this way. less is more.
My link is public (no need to have any account). Have you technically blocked all facebook domain content can be uploaded to/downloaded from or do you just set yourself against visiting any facebook content?
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anyhow, if there's motivational memes about Linux and FOSS popping up on facebook now, all i can say is:
NO. i do not want GNU/Linux to succeed in this way. less is more.
Actually, it's not really motivational. The purpose is rather to highlight the contradictory/complex current situation (technically better doesn't mean it's more adopted).
In fact "best" in "I wish Linux was the best OS..." needs to be defined here.
Given the lightheartedness of this thread, I will add to the jollity by pointing out in true schoolmaster style that the title should read "I wish Linux *were* the best OS" since the subjunctive is in play here.
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I don't know how a kernel is a "complete OS" - it's not. So therefore there is no "Linux OS", sorry to be a party pooper...
In case anyone is afraid of visiting Facebook, or maybe doesn't want to go to another site to see what the OP is talking about, and/or just in case your machine decides to meltdown at the thought of going to Facebook, and/or because you might join up; I've downloaded the image and attached it.
I don't know how a kernel is a "complete OS" - it's not. So therefore there is no "Linux OS", sorry to be a party pooper...
And many an argument about this we have seen over the years.
Then again, what is a "complete OS"? Where does the operating system end and the system utilities/applications begin?
To many, Linux is an operating system in the same way that macOS and Windows are. That goes for me too. I will always acknowledge the place of the GNU utilities in Linux, but for me "Linux" is the operating system that I use and environment in which I work, not just the kernel.
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Then again, what is a "complete OS"? Where does the operating system end and the system utilities/applications begin?
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The kernel it's-very-self doesn't include things like the init system and OS shells etc. The Linux kernel needs at least one of those things to be able to do anything for you (both if you have an init system of some description as well).
That's why we have Linux distributions.
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Reason: forgot "for you".
The kernel it's-very-self doesn't include things like the init system and OS shells etc. The Linux kernel needs at least one of those things to be able to do anything for you (both if you have an init system of some description as well).
That's why we have Linux distributions.
Our key disagreement is that you only call the kernel Linux whereas I (and most others) call both the kernel and the family of operating systems on which it is based Linux. It's all a case of nomenclature and we're never going to agree.
Edit: To address your specific point, I didn't ask where the kernel ended, I asked where the operating system ended.
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Our key disagreement is that you only call the kernel Linux whereas I (and most others) call both the kernel and the family of operating systems on which it is based Linux. It's all a case of nomenclature and we're never going to agree.
"Linux" would be the "generic" name for a "Linux distribution", so I do agree with you on that point. So maybe a "Linux based system" would be a better description. I don't think it's a big deal, some people call their whole computer a "hard drive". But of course we know better...
"Linux" would be the "generic" name for a "Linux distribution", so I do agree with you on that point. So maybe a "Linux based system" would be a better description. I don't think it's a big deal, some people call their whole computer a "hard drive". But of course we know better...
I vote for the more widespread use of the word "thing" in life - it would avoid a lot of confusion!
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