How Come the Linux Community Didn't Act Normal With Systemd?

Tried Linux Mint 18 and got the same thing. A desktop but nothing else.

Chris.

Originally Posted by happydog500 *Disclaimer; As far as I can see, they just argued and argued about it, until most distros added it. Looks like the Linux community didn't act normal with Systemd. Chris.

ah ah ah ... very funny. Yeah, that's how the Linux community works

Luckily that Linus is NOT like this - otherwise you would have a serious trouble Houston !!!!


More funny, you can read that one:

The solution: Remove systemd, install OpenRC "Coincidentally", there were others before me who had had similar concerns and had prepared the way. Their efforts and experience is summarised in these pages. Sincere, warm thanks go to artoo and Aaditya who have done most of the work in Archland and, of course, the Gentoo developers who have made this possible in the first place.

http://systemd-free.org/




I would highly recommend to look at the link below and what really it is about:
https://www.kernel.org/

things were working just fine without it!

True.

I have been using Slackware since PV's first release in 1993 and very happy with the way development has been going for past 23 years. Rock Solid!!

Same with me.
One thing: I don't need systemd to run a desktop for office works, and I don't even need a 64bit for this. Much it is if you run linux as firewall or a small office server.
My slackware 12 runs fast until today and I marvel it doesn't break despite hardwork!
Thanks PV for sticking to the init!

Originally Posted by malekmustaq Same with me. One thing: I don't need systemd to run a desktop for office works, and I don't even need a 64bit for this. Much it is if you run linux as firewall or a small office server. My slackware 12 runs fast until today and I marvel it doesn't break despite hardwork! Thanks PV for sticking to the init!

Be proud... Slackware is still today very probably the best Linux distribution. Today "Solid as rock" indeed.

Originally Posted by happydog500 Thank you for the information. slackware is listed as for "advanced" user. The average computer user may think of me as "advanced" but for Linux, I'm not. I like "Desktop" that is not for "advanced" Linux users. A good desktop, as a Live CD to test it out, for everyday use, not systemd. I will repeat, it seems so weird that Linux has a new part of the OS, lots of people don't like it, so almost all the major distros start using it. No choice. Chris.

This post makes no sense and I'm seeing similar a lot. What is it about systemd that you cannot live with when you're not actually doing anything which means dealing with it?
I'm sorry to be harsh but if you know nothing abouit how these things work how do you know you don't want systemd? An esteemed member has posted a few good, technical, reasons why systemd is a good thing (admitedly not for casual use) but I see no arguments why it's a bad thing for somebody who is "just a. Dumb desktop user".

Originally Posted by 273 This post makes...

What you just wrote to him was pretty harsh indeed. It is not your business. You could delete your post before someone or a moderator sees it.

Originally Posted by patrick295767 What you just wrote to him was pretty harsh indeed. It is not your business. You could delete your post before someone or a moderator sees it.

why? Because I'm asking somebody why they're criticising software with no apparent reason to do so?
Perhaps you could stay on topic and point out how systemd causes problems on desktop Linux for a day-to-day user?

logind

Now with systemD in place am moving Sid's software up to the next more "volatile"\experimental...
my operating system is so much better than average (or even opinionated!)
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...5/#post5590282

Originally Posted by jamison20000e Now with systemD in place am moving Sid's software up to the next more "volatile"\experimental... my operating system is so much better than average (or even opinionated!) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...5/#post5590282

Jami you are now communicating in ordinary speech.
But I prefer to decipher you thoughts from that usual
laconic eccentricity.
More comics if you please.

One could still read gibberish init...

if you have a complaint just push the button:

Originally Posted by happydog500 Thank you for the information. slackware is listed as for "advanced" user. The average computer user may think of me as "advanced" but for Linux, I'm not. I like "Desktop" that is not for "advanced" Linux users. A good desktop, as a Live CD to test it out, for everyday use, not systemd. I will repeat, it seems so weird that Linux has a new part of the OS, lots of people don't like it, so almost all the major distros start using it. No choice. Chris. Originally Posted by 273 This post makes no sense and I'm seeing similar a lot. What is it about systemd that you cannot live with when you're not actually doing anything which means dealing with it? I'm sorry to be harsh but if you know nothing abouit how these things work how do you know you don't want systemd? An esteemed member has posted a few good, technical, reasons why systemd is a good thing (admitedly not for casual use) but I see no arguments why it's a bad thing for somebody who is "just a. Dumb desktop user". Originally Posted by patrick295767 What you just wrote to him was pretty harsh indeed. It is not your business. You could delete your post before someone or a moderator sees it. Originally Posted by 273 why? Because I'm asking somebody why they're criticising software with no apparent reason to do so? Perhaps you could stay on topic and point out how systemd causes problems on desktop Linux for a day-to-day user?

I believe the topic is "How Come the Linux Community Didn't Act Normal With Systemd?" (also including distributions available without systemd, as mentioned by the OP). The OP is correct with his comment that lots of people don't like it and I am sure you are aware that's the case.

Originally Posted by 2damncommon I believe the topic is "How Come the Linux Community Didn't Act Normal With Systemd?" (also including distributions available without systemd, as mentioned by the OP). The OP is correct with his comment that lots of people don't like it and I am sure you are aware that's the case.

Most of Linux users will install Systemd because they have no choice. They install Ubuntu, Mint or Debian. It is the easiest way.

I also don't think it's fair to say "most" don't like it. MOST users could care less. If their machine boots, and they can use it, they're happy.

It's actually a fairly small percentage that actively dislike systemd. They're by far the loudest, but they're probably the smallest number.