ok im running the latest version of winex (3.3.1 from memory as im not in linux to check) and all my games run perfectly under winex except for one major proplem... they run very very slow. i have an AMD XP1800+ with 512mb ram and an ati radeon 9000 graphics card with the latest drives from ati (that was heaps of fun to get installed and working correctly but i finally got it all going 3d accelerated and all no thanks to ati's help files)
all i want to play is warcraft 3 frozen throne and a few other older games.

my system is
athlon XP 1800+
512mb ram
120gig seagate hd
radeon 9000 64mb
sound blaster live value 5.1 s/c
via kt266 m/b

a solution to this problem would be greatly appreciated
thankyou

I'll try to help even though I am jealous that you have a better computer...

You should check the wine config file (not sure how it works for winex as I use wine, not winex) for options for accelerating video performance. There should be some options in there with tips as to what they do. I got my last system up to double the framerate of windows by tinkering with those options, and options in XF86Config. Check your XF86Config file too. There should be a bunch of options there that will make a difference, like telling it how much video ram you have .

BTW, why are you using winex with an ATI card (as opposed to a regular distro of wine)? Do the games that you play not have OpenGL?

one reason for that slowness is the ati drivers. AFAIK, the 3.7.0 drivers dont have 3d accel with winex. i think that the 3.2.8 driver do, though, so try those.

Well WineX is used for Direct X games so they probably don't have OpenGL. I'm running an Athlon XP 2800+ and the faster the processor the better the performance will be. So it is a possiblity that the processor is slowing things down since you're having WineX translate the binary while playing the game. Of course, I just play games like UT2004 which are available for Linux anyway, so maybe not. The GFX drivers might be a problem as well if they only support OpenGL. Also, they make Linux binaries for some Windows games such as MOHAA.

Indeed... ATi driver 3.7.0 broke some compatibility with OpenGL applications, try 3.2.8 (I use those) which are more compatible (although not as fast, ok depending on the app) than the 3.7.0

I used to play with WineX on my former processor (changed two days ago) an XP1800+ with the same amount of RAM as you do. I have a 9500 and I could paly very well many of my Windows games (I never thought I could play Deus Ex 1 on Linux, w00t!). However also bare in mind that Transgaming supports more nVidia graphics cards than ATi's, and they have virtually just started to work towards supporting ATi drivers (I don't know if that makes a lot or not at all of a difference).

Several factors can slow down WineX: Graphics Drivers, Number of calls, your config, I/O, etc... But keep this is mind..WineX is a Windows subsystem with a DirectX subsystem. In other words, its almost like an emulator. (It isn't but to sort of simplify things) WineX isn't perfect, its trying to act like a full Windows system and sadly not all the APIs are there yet to even get it stable. Plus, your probably running DirectX games; WineX translates the DirectX calls to OpenGL and that impacts the speed (that being said, if the game supports OpenGL, WineX just passes the message along, increasing performance a bit) greatly.

This is why some people don't like Transgaming (they did kill an attempt to port some games)... I don't like it (I myself got a subscription to play Max Payne.. man was that sad).. in the end your paying for a even buggier version of Windows (if that is even possible) that can't handle games to the point of running the same game on the same machine in Windows. So if you want to run your Windows games, do it in Windows. WineX is just too slow and buggy for anything worthwhile.......

NOTE!!! id Software is doing a great job of porting their stuff to Linux. RCTW and Quake are good examples of this I wish more compaines would do this. 3dRealms released the Duke3d source and when that happened, less than 4 hours later someone already ported it to Linux the same day



(Steps to getting me off of Windows permentally (least near): 1) VS Studio Like IDE (MonoDevelop coming soon ) 2) Games)

Have you tried anjuta?

or kdevelop? WineX itself isnt actually that bad, but you hit the explanation right on the translation of directx and calls and such.

well firstly the only games i play that arent already ported to linux(that i know of) at the moment are warcraft 3 frozen throne and sometimes starcraft. a few other games would be alright. but anyway back to the subject... even with the opengl games it runs slow. just to prove my point to myself i tried to install quake 2(not a heavy load on a pc like mine in any view in my opinion) and it still did the same slow thing.... i havent checked out the config files so ill do that now and see what i can do. but other than that can someone give me a link to get the 3.2.8 drivers for xfree86 4.3.0 as i tried for so long to find them and couldnt.
thanx for replying so quickly guys

If you want I may e-mail them to you, but you may download them from ATi's webpage... Here's the direct link: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/fg...3.2.8.i586.rpm

thanx for the link. shame on ati for not putting up a link to previous versions of their drivers

(for some reason I can't PM?) I've tried anjuta, kdevelop never worked for me. anjuta is nice for C/C++ apps, but I'm more a C# kind of guy

Alas, ati doesn't make the drivers themselves, I guess their a little slow

If I can recall correctly, since release 3.2.5 the drivers were made in house at ATi bringing back home the driver development team from Germany to Canada. So no more Schneider-Digital drivers for ATi cards, but rather home-made ATi drivers... That's what I remember, anyway and I could be mistaken.

Actually, the one application tying me to Windows was EverQuest, which runs beautifully in WineX.

Regards,
nightwulf