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Old 03-11-2017, 01:16 PM   #16
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Fine so far. :-)

For Steam, I assume that you've been working off this page:

https://wiki.debian.org/Steam

It recommends first of all that you update your graphics drivers to allow more games to be successfully played and has links for both AMD and nVidia. Is this something you've already done?

If, however, you would prefer just to go ahead without updating the drivers (which may not be required for the games in which you're interested), as a first step can you run the following command so that we can see what is currently installed, and paste the output here:

dpkg -l '*steam*' (that's a small letter ell)

Then, run Steam from the command line so that we can see if it still produces the error that you mentioned in the opening post. Cheers.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 01:18 PM   #17
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Okay. That was.. odd.. It needed to get 0 bytes / 73mb of archives.. Downloads nothing. Anyways, that is all up-to-date.
Edit: I have no clue what was going on; my PC thought it was connected to the Internet and thought it was down all at the same time. Mmmm. Okie dokie, replug that ethernet.. seems to be all good, Internet is fully up again. I repeat process, and no updates so I guess it is all good?
Perhaps that means that there were 73MB of archives available of which it needed 0 bytes?
 
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Sigh, nothing just "works" in my life does it. So, back where I was; It is just sitting there. I open steam - no errors, nothing. It is running. I opted to run it from terminal and it is stuck on
Code:
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1489101908)
.

I've linked it to Nvidia drivers for OpenGL or something around that. So I am trying to install & purge just about anything with libGL1.

I have nothing. So, turns out I needed a little more than 32bit packages I suppose.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 03:48 PM   #19
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Sigh, nothing just "works" in my life does it. So, back where I was; It is just sitting there. I open steam - no errors, nothing. It is running. I opted to run it from terminal and it is stuck on
Code:
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1489101908)
.

I've linked it to Nvidia drivers for OpenGL or something around that. So I am trying to install & purge just about anything with libGL1.

I have nothing. So, turns out I needed a little more than 32bit packages I suppose.
Seriously, you shouldn't be installing and purging library files unless you have a good idea of what you are doing and how it will affect your system.

You didn't paste the output of dpkg -l '*steam*' as I requested. Shall we go back to that point?
 
Old 03-11-2017, 06:56 PM   #20
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Oh, sorry some how I didn't see that post. I.. am unsure how. Anyways, you're probably right as I had to fight installing said packages as GDM3 wanted to fight with me; in the end I went ahead and removed those pesky packages I shouldn't touched in the first place, and force-killed GDM3 as for some reason service was being to polite or something.. In the end, that is all fine. And yes, I realize about all my habits have a tenancy to make things worse.

Anyways, ignoring my horrible habits (that I love so much), no I wasn't looking off of said Wikipage; rather some random Stack[whatever] and AskUbuntu articles I stumbled upon - none of them seemed to do any good ;(. Anyways, I went ahead and pasted your command (pasting commands from the Internet what could go wrong right?)
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asprin@Murica:~$ dpkg -l '*steam*'
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++-==============-============-============-=================================
ii steam 1.0.0.54 i386 Launcher for the Steam software d
ii steam-launcher 1.0.0.54 all Launcher for the Steam software d
un steam64 <none> <none> (no description available)
Edit: Well, turns out I didn't notice that there were two pages and I was refreshing upon the first. Sorry about that wasted time.

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Old 03-11-2017, 07:40 PM   #21
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I'll need to come back to this tomorrow, TLC. However my thoughts are that you should properly purge steam and then reinstall it with reference to that Debian page and the Steam site. Perhaps someone on LQ who has actually installed Steam on their Debian 64-bit system will step in (have a look to see if there are any previous threads in both the Debian and the Games subforums here to see if the subject has come up before). However, if you can wait until tomorrow, I can work through it with you.

If you feel you want to go ahead, to purge a package you can use sudo apt-get --purge autoremove package, and you should remove both steam and steam-launcher.

I would also like, though, to have a look at what you've been uninstalling today to see if anything crucial was uninstalled. To look at your package management history, you can use more more /var/log/apt/history.log and scroll down to near the end. If you could paste the entries for today, and any steam-related entries from previous days, then that might be a good help.

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Old 03-11-2017, 07:52 PM   #22
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TLC, I've just noticed that you're using a Steam repo for Ubuntu Precise when you're actually running Debian Jessie (I don't know how I missed it before). Mixing distros is definitely not a good idea, unless you're adding a repo of a "parent" distro on which yours is closely based e.g. adding a Ubuntu repo to Linux Mint. Just for info for the future, mixing distro versions is also not a good idea e.g. Jessie & Wheezy. You should comment out that repo and the associated deb-src. Once you've done that, have a look to see what's available in the Debian repos with apt-cache show steam.

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Old 03-11-2017, 08:19 PM   #23
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TLC, I've just noticed that you're using a Steam repo for Ubuntu Precise when you're actually running Debian Jessie (I don't know how I missed it before). Mixing distros is definitely not a good idea, unless you're adding a repo of a "parent" distro on which yours is closely based e.g. adding a Ubuntu repo to Linux Mint. Just for info for the future, mixing distro versions is also not a good idea e.g. Jessie & Wheezy. You should comment out that repo and the associated deb-src. Once you've done that, have a look to see what's available in the Debian repos with apt-cache show steam.
Alright, in regards to your other comment and this one, first of all the repo was just automatically added when I installed the steam deb.. Steam wasn't built for Debian I guess. All that I uninstalled was
  • libgl1-nvidia-glx
  • libgl-nvidia-glx:i386
Err is all I recall. I wasn't installing/uninstalling that much really. But just incase my memory fails me, here you go on that file you asked for.. I opted to filter some stuffs out of course, really long but ill toss it in a pastebin (or something close enough) here. (Paste has a 3 day expiration time.)

And on the reaver & aircrack I was bored and wondering if my networks were vulnerable to WPS cracking. Prolly are, but I closed it too early anyways..
Code:
Start-Date: 2017-03-11  12:24:50
Commandline: apt-get upgrade
**Removed**

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  14:04:30
Commandline: apt-get upgrade
Upgrade: spotify-client:amd64 (1.0.47.13.gd8e05b1f-89, 1.0.49.125.g72ee7853-111)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  14:04:33

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  15:50:15
Commandline: apt-get install steam --reinstall
Install: steam:i386 (1.0.0.54)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  15:50:15

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  15:54:00
Commandline: apt-get install libGL1-mesa-dri:i386
**Kinda long also.**

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  15:59:53
Commandline: apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
**This.. took up a fair portion of lines.**
End-Date: 2017-03-11  16:01:12

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  16:03:58
Commandline: apt-get install reaver
Install: reaver:amd64 (1.4-2)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  16:03:59

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  16:07:37
Commandline: apt-get install aircrack-ng
Install: ieee-data:amd64 (20150531.1~deb8u2, automatic), aircrack-ng:amd64 (1.2-0~beta3-4), wireless-tools:amd64 (30~pre9-8, automatic)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  16:07:39

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  16:35:27
Commandline: apt-get purge libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
Purge: libgl1-nvidia-glx-i386:i386 (340.101-1), libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 (340.101-1)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  16:35:45

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  16:36:18
Commandline: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
**Yup**
End-Date: 2017-03-11  16:36:21

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  16:39:08
Commandline: apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx-i386
Install: libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx:i386 (304.134-0~deb8u1, automatic), libxv1:i386 (1.0.10-1+b1, automatic), nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms:amd64 (304.134-0~deb8u1, automatic), libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx-i386:i386 (304.134-0~deb8u1), nvidia-legacy-304xx-alternative:amd64 (304.134-0~deb8u1, automatic), libxvmc1:i386 (1.0.8-2+b1, automatic)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  16:39:49

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  16:40:32
Commandline: apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx-i386
Install: libgl1-nvidia-glx-i386:i386 (340.101-1), libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 (340.101-1, automatic)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  16:40:42

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  19:39:54
Commandline: apt-get purge libgl1-nvidia-glx
Purge: nvidia-driver:amd64 (340.101-1), xserver-xorg-video-nvidia:amd64 (340.101-1), libgl1-nvidia-glx:amd64 (340.101-1)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  19:40:03

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  19:45:17
Commandline: apt-get purge libgl1-nvidia-glx-i386
Purge: libgl1-nvidia-glx-i386:i386 (340.101-1)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  19:45:18

Start-Date: 2017-03-11  19:45:51
Commandline: apt-get purge libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
Purge: libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 (340.101-1)
End-Date: 2017-03-11  19:46:09

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Old 03-12-2017, 04:50 AM   #24
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Alright, in regards to your other comment and this one, first of all the repo was just automatically added when I installed the steam deb.. Steam wasn't built for Debian I guess. All that I uninstalled was
  • libgl1-nvidia-glx
  • libgl-nvidia-glx:i386
Err is all I recall. I wasn't installing/uninstalling that much really. But just incase my memory fails me, here you go on that file you asked for.. I opted to filter some stuffs out of course, really long but ill toss it in a pastebin (or something close enough) here. (Paste has a 3 day expiration time.)

And on the reaver & aircrack I was bored and wondering if my networks were vulnerable to WPS cracking. Prolly are, but I closed it too early anyways..
Thanks. If you look at that page that I linked to, you will see that it is the official Debian page for Steam. Debian is also listed on Steam's downloads page. Steam has definitely been built for Debian. Of course it also has been built for other platforms and Linux distros. You have to make sure that you are installing the right software for your distro/version, and the first recourse is always to see if a package is available in your official repos. In this case it is.

I'll have to be honest with you, I'm quite surprised that you haven't damaged your system with everything that you've been doing. The fact that you've been playing about with installing and removing i386 packages probably saved you.

Given all those installs etc., and anything else that you missed out, I have to ask you if at any point you have made a system backup to which you can revert (which is always a good idea, especially before you make important changes)? If not, are you in a state where you can save your documents and other data and do a reinstall of Debian? You would probably be best starting with a tabula rasa.
 
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So, no I never made any backups.. I do have like 3 drives in my PC (SSD Lin, DesktopHDD Files, LaptopHDD Windows) so I could make one, but I haven't really done too much to my PC. (Though once I did purge libmesa. Didn't turn out very well.) Though, my PC is probably fine (right? No? Mmm). Anyways, I have had this issue one my previous device before; I had a laptop running debian. I somehow overcame it. But I have nothing on how I did that so you know. Anyways, I probably screwed with it just as much, and it was fine. Currently the HDD is likely in a fritz that I should fix due to all sorts of things. (It is really sensitive when you take it out of the laptop for some reason..)

I'm checking out the link.
 
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So, no I never made any backups.. I do have like 3 drives in my PC (SSD Lin, DesktopHDD Files, LaptopHDD Windows) so I could make one, but I haven't really done too much to my PC. (Though once I did purge libmesa. Didn't turn out very well.) Though, my PC is probably fine (right? No? Mmm). Anyways, I have had this issue one my previous device before; I had a laptop running debian. I somehow overcame it. But I have nothing on how I did that so you know. Anyways, I probably screwed with it just as much, and it was fine. Currently the HDD is likely in a fritz that I should fix due to all sorts of things. (It is really sensitive when you take it out of the laptop for some reason..)

I'm checking out the link.
I would advise you to make backups. Have a look through the threads on here for advice, and/or post a new thread asking people what their preferred ways of doing this are. You shouldn't perhaps follow what I do personally (because I do things a bit strangely), but I for example make (i) partition images of /, /home, and /home/data using Macrium Reflect (a Windows program) offline; (ii) file backups of /home and /home/data using FreeFileSync.

The former in particular, which I take every week or so because I play about with my system a bit, have saved me on more than one occasion as they allow me to quickly roll back the system to a previous state if things go awry. The latter allows me to access specific files and directories that I want to restore.

People use different software to make backups and images (rsync, clonezilla, etc.) so do have a look around and try various software out.

Seriously, if you're going to explore your system as you are doing (which is great, you must be learning a lot), you need to start making backups. They would be very useful anyway in case of hardware failure etc, but in your case indispensable.
 
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So, I opted to try and follow the Steam wikipage a little better and I am trying to add mutliarch support. It keeps looking like it adds, but dpkg --print-architecture just lists out amd64. Just. dandy.

Anyways, any ideas? Think I should make a forum thread? I am looking on google currently no hits.


Okay, even though DPKG is gonna be frustrating, apt is showing i386 packages.

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asprin@Murica:~$ steam
ILocalize::AddFile() failed to load file "public/steambootstrapper_english.txt".
[2017-03-12 13:33:56] Startup - updater built Aug 26 2014 15:35:42
SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred
X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
Now I am getting to the point creating a new thread is probably what I should do.
 
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You already had multi-arch support, i386 being defined as your foreign architecture, as we determined earlier on with dpkg --print-foreign-architectures.

Multi-arch in this respect means that you have a main machine architecture (in your case, amd64) and foreign architectures (in your case, i386), packages from all of which can be installed.
 
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Now I am getting to the point creating a new thread is probably what I should do.
I would still advise you to backup your data, start over again with a new Debian install, and document clearly any actions that you take to install Steam.
 
  


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