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Old 10-27-2023, 04:56 AM   #1
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Starfield anyone?


Like the title really... Has anyone tried running it on Linux and how was it?
 
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Old 10-27-2023, 06:53 AM   #3
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Thanks! I may risk it!
 
Old 10-28-2023, 08:47 AM   #4
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Starfield on linux: newer AMD gpus seem to work. Runs on my RX 7600 good. NVIDIA gpus not so much, more problematic and performance is worse.
 
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Old 10-29-2023, 04:47 AM   #5
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Starfield on linux: newer AMD gpus seem to work. Runs on my RX 7600 good. NVIDIA gpus not so much, more problematic and performance is worse.
Thank you! That's useful. Are you getting any issues? Stuttering, freezing etc? I've got a new machine coming soon and it ought to be able to have a better shot at it than this one so I'm thinking of splurging. It doesn't sound like my kind of thing really - I just love the TES series and Baldur's Gate I and II type of thing but I would like to see what Bethesda have done - it might gives some clues as to what TES 6 will be like...
 
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FWIW: https://www.protondb.com/app/1716740

Looks like a lot of the 'bad' reports are also reporting NVIDIA cards, and it sounds like even on Windows that may be a problem with this game (apparently the Bethesda corporate motto still rings true: "a patch is coming"). As with most Bethesda games, its probably worth waiting a good six months to a year post-launch until it comes out of whatever rough, beta state they shipped in, and things settle (and/or to give the modding community time to come along and perform all the QC and fix a lot of the glaring bugs, where possible). This isn't meant to discourage you, just the unfortunate reality of Bethesda games.

More positively, Fallout 4 (which to my understanding is a near sibling under the hood) has run essentially as if it were native (as on, on Windows) for a few years now, and did much better in that respect than previous Bethesda titles (at least in my experience/opinion). The only real issues were with NVIDIA-specific add-ons (like the PhysX and Godrays) which can all be turned off, and which are usually not well supported on Linux (even with NVIDIA driver + hardware). This time around it sounds like Bethesda has snubbed NVIDIA, so probably there isn't much to be turning off in that respect. Probably I would say 'wait' and let them patch it up to something resembling a non-beta product, and it will probably be worked out and running quite well, as their last few games have all been fairly popular and tend to get focus for support by WINE/Proton/modding community to work outside of Windows.
 
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Old 11-05-2023, 02:49 AM   #7
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@obobskivich - Don't worry - I'm not discourage-able! Skyrim running via Steam and Linux will freeze sometimes (no worse than on Windows) but my first games were played on the ZX81 - thereafter I played large rpg on sometimes very flaky systems so I'm a) used to saving frequently and b) shrugging my shoulders when something goes wrong. Someone playing on Linux (maybe it was here or Steam) said that they'd done something to Skyrim/Wine/Proton and now their game was broken in 'new and interesting ways' and really it's a philosophy I go with. Getting the game stable via Steam, Proton, Wine and the zillions of mods is really a lot of fun; and sometimes I think I enjoy that more than the actual gaming.

However, I do like to know what issues people are having so that I can recognise something that the community will fix (and as you say they are brilliant at coming to the rescue - it's one of the many things I like about Linux) or it's definitely something about my rig and I have to fix it.

I play Skyrim still and Oblivion and Morrowind - I completed Fallout3 and the various DLC to it but I never got far with Fallout 4. I guessed the ending and I never ever felt at home there... I don't think Starfield will be my game either. But I'd like to see what Bethesda have done... it might point the way to TES6.

I do like finding fellow gamers here though!

Thanks for the linky - very interesting comments there.

PS - I have a new PC coming but I've forgotten which graphics card I finally decided on. It was ordered nearly a month ago now and a **lot** has happened since then!
 
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@obobskivich - Don't worry - I'm not discourage-able! Skyrim running via Steam and Linux will freeze sometimes (no worse than on Windows) but my first games were played on the ZX81 - thereafter I played large rpg on sometimes very flaky systems so I'm a) used to saving frequently and b) shrugging my shoulders when something goes wrong. Someone playing on Linux (maybe it was here or Steam) said that they'd done something to Skyrim/Wine/Proton and now their game was broken in 'new and interesting ways' and really it's a philosophy I go with. Getting the game stable via Steam, Proton, Wine and the zillions of mods is really a lot of fun; and sometimes I think I enjoy that more than the actual gaming.
Spoken like a true Elder Scrolls diehard...

One thing I will note, since switching to Linux full-time for gaming a few years back, I've actually had significantly fewer crashes in the various Creation/Gamebryo-based games - Skyrim can still be the on the pokey side, but I honestly do not remember Fallout New Vegas or Fallout 4 (which are on 'either side' of Skyrim in terms of releaase) running so well on Windows. Even in the limited testing I've done via Porting Kit (for macOS) everything is generally pretty 'stable,' and most of the performance oddness I've seen in a handful of games probably has more to do with Rosetta2's involvement than the game itself. Always something to faff about with on the weekend, that's for sure.

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I play Skyrim still and Oblivion and Morrowind - I completed Fallout3 and the various DLC to it but I never got far with Fallout 4. I guessed the ending and I never ever felt at home there... I don't think Starfield will be my game either. But I'd like to see what Bethesda have done... it might point the way to TES6.
I notice there's no mention of Fallout New Vegas here - if you haven't tried it, it's worth a look. It's built on a heavily kitbashed version of Fallout 3 (this is one of the developer's own words), but has an entirely unrelated story (it tries to pick-up from where the Interplay-era games were set). If Fallout 3 runs well on your system, New Vegas should have no problems either (they have very similar system requirements on Windows, and came out barely two years apart).

I will freely admit to being quite cynical of post-Microsoft Bethesda, especially after Fallout 76, and haven't really paid much attention to Starfield or any prognistications about Fallout 5, TES6, etc as a result - at this point I won't be surprised if/when they make the whole thing Xbox/Games For Windows Live (well, whatever they call it today, but the idea remains alive and well) exclusive, packed to the brim with pay-to-win mechanics, and the DRM functionality likely breaks compatibility with Linux. Then again, they did just release Fallout 4 on GOG, which I think surprised a lot of people, and Skyrim was finally released (albeit only as the 'remastered' edition) on GOG not so long ago, both as DRM-free (and in Skyrim's case even with all the extra MTX DLC - Fallout 4 they seem unable to help themselves though, and the $300+ of MTX is still not included). There's a lot of other games out there though, and it isn't like old games vanish from the world, so life goes on.
 
  


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