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Old 02-12-2005, 12:15 PM   #1
c0in
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SUSE vs Debian


I currently use a slackware 10 distro. It's been working fine for me for some time (been using slack for 3 years) the only problem is that I've got to do some tweaks and configure it every now and than. For now i've been short of time and can't afford to spend about an hour or so to make something work.

For this reason i've been considering changing my distro for a mainstream one such as SUSE or Debian. The most important thing for me would be an easy to update (Yast and apt should do the work) and fast system. I surely don't want to spend time on post install configuration, not that i would have trouble with it (some slackware time will get you used to it), i just don't have time for it, and i surely don't want to have trouble with dependencies.

The debian install wouldn't be such a great deal, as it's only a one time hassle.

So what distro do u think would be more suitable Debian or SUSE ?!

Thanks,
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Old 02-12-2005, 01:19 PM   #2
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Suse
 
Old 02-12-2005, 01:34 PM   #3
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debian sarge net installer.
or ubuntu.
 
Old 02-12-2005, 02:13 PM   #4
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The thing with debian is that I think it will need more tweaks than suse to work flawlessly in my computer (something like slackware), the YaST really caught my attention. I read something about ubuntu but I don't think it is as mainstream as SUSE or Debian.

Which one do u think will run faster ?!

thanks,
c0in.
 
Old 02-12-2005, 04:12 PM   #5
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If you have used Slack, you probably should use Debian.
Debian Sarge doesn't work as well as Suse out of the box .. you might have to play with video/sound/printer
setups .. and that would take at least a few hours.

Suse is fine to use but Debian is about 3-4 times faster .. on my machine I have both .. and on Suse it
takes 11 seconds to open the webpage (from start) and on Debian about 4 !!!

Similar difference is almost everything else.

for Speed use debian .. for ease Suse is fine.
 
Old 02-12-2005, 05:18 PM   #6
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errrr? In what way is Debian mainstream? Or Suse?
Why not try them both? After 3 years with Slackware, you will have the experience to judge easily. The Debian installer is great --- if all goes well (and clearly it doesn't sometimes) and Apt is the business. I have no experience of the latest Suse. I find that I always have to spend time making something work ---- not because it doesn't work but because I want to see *how* I can change how it works. I don't think changing distro would change that.
 
Old 02-22-2005, 03:37 PM   #7
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Trust me

I've used slack for sometime and ,SUSE, redhat, fedora, lately I've been usign debian

Im a linux enthusiast and Im really happy with the progress that suse has made since novell bought it, especialy in the public sector. I still think if your coming from slack want excellent package managment and secure/stable debian is really the way to go. SUSE still does messed things and I find my self kill -9 *** much more often with it. debian <sarge> is not only rock solid it has the largest array of binary packages of all distros. I say use the right distro for the job but if you jsut want one for every thing its most definately debian. I dare to slack, and I love debain between the two I have everything I need. though I'm thinking of trying gentoo soon I here good things about it.


TRUST ME Deb sarge is the way to go.. if you accidently get woody or have it already and dont wanna use jigdo or whateva just install woody change your apt sources to unstable (sarge) apt-get distro upgrade

bang your running sarge



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Old 02-28-2005, 09:19 AM   #8
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Debian gets my vote. Though you might consider Ubuntu, which is, for all intents and purposes, just another version of Debian with a highly optimized Gnome destop. Ubuntu is also a bit more up to date with their packaging. I'm seriously considering the move to Ubuntu from Debian myself, just because of their better release schedule that will keep my system more up to date without having to run Debian unstable (Sid).
 
Old 02-28-2005, 10:13 AM   #9
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Here's another vote for Debian Sarge. Debian's default install is rather spartan, but that's okay for you since you already know your way around Linux and already know what your favorite applications are. You just install those and you're set up.

OTOH, if you really want a minimum hassle install, consider using Mepis or Kanotix. These are Knoppix variants which have VERY good hardware detection--the buzz is that Mepis has even better automatic hardware detection than SUSE. Mepis is based on Debian Testing (Sarge); Kanotix is based on Debian Unstable (Sid).

Mepis is great for those who have limited time and are impatient--it's just one CD with a huge amount of useful software thanks to Knoppix style file compression. Like other Knoppix variants, the install is very fast, AND you can use it while doing the install. It's nice to be able to browse the internet or play Frozen Bubble during the install.

The only problem is that Mepis installs a heck of a lot of JUNK in your home directory. I have no idea why the Mepis designers thought there was a need to have a gazillion directories in ~ (like Documents, Pictures, Music, etc...). It's not hard to clean things up, but for an experienced Linux user the spartan blank slate of Debian Sarge is more pleasant.
 
  


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