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Old 05-09-2004, 06:22 PM   #1
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Suse 9.0 kernel 2.6.5 alsa and kde


hello world!

alsa is a frequently discussed subject, but i couldn't find answers to my problems.
i compiled a 2.6.5 kernel with alsa. afaik suse 9.0 already uses alsa with the 2.4-kernel, so upgrading shouldn't be that much of a problem. at least that's what they want you to think.
i've been fiddling around with some config-files and i actually got a result. originally sound didn't work at all, now i got it to work once. whenever i start a second application that uses sound i get a message saying /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c already in use. this is ok, since there is a sound-application running.
but how can i make programs use one of the other devices?
and here's the fun part:
i boot my system. i can run one sound application and it acts as it's supposed to. if i quit that application (don't kill! killing is bad!) and start anotherone the second application will play sound. this is only true if that application is not arts. once i run arts, it won't free the device after terminating it and when i start a second application while arts is running there is no way to get a noise out of my speakers. so a second application with arts is bad too.

no matter what, xmms will freeze when i hit the play button and then i have to kill it.

can anybody help me with this?

another funny thing i experience with 2.6.5 is a sudden freeze of /opt/kde3/share/applnk/System/konsole.desktop. it works perfectly for a (long) random amount of time and then it freezes. it does not do that with the 2.4-kernel and xterm has not made any problems so far. only ke konsole.desktop.
it's not that important since i can use xterm, i just want to share that experience.

thanks for all the replys

quinn
 
Old 05-09-2004, 06:37 PM   #2
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Well, mine works fine. Course, I just downloaded the suse 2.6.5-8 kernel rpm and installed it instead of compiling one...
 
Old 05-10-2004, 03:46 AM   #3
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turn of the arts server in KDE, what causes more problems than it is worth in my experience.

This might require you to change your XMMS preferences also.

easiest way to check if that's working, is to run mpg123 on the console and just tell it an mp3 file

as for konsole dying ... and sound not working, it could be you have misconfigured the kernel so that it has the wrong North bridge info. (if you have an integrated soundchip, that's where it lives [i think]).

Eitherway, 2.6.5 should not freeze anything. though if you have made a mistake in that regard ....

This seems a common thing with the 2.6 series.

Last edited by chakkerz; 05-10-2004 at 03:50 AM.
 
Old 05-10-2004, 09:01 AM   #4
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caeda???

hey caeda where did you get that 2.6.5-8 suse kernel rpm and also do they have the suse 2.6.5-8 source so i can try my tutorial on that kernel right now im running 2.6.4-53.3. my ati tutorial for suse 9.1 is at
http://blahserver.greatnow.com/atihowto.html enjoy
 
Old 05-10-2004, 09:18 AM   #5
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Got it right off the Suse ftp server in the people directories. You really should browse em sometime. They got all sorts of nice up to date rpms in those... built by different users working for suse I believe.
 
Old 05-12-2004, 03:03 AM   #6
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doesn't Yast also allow online updates?
 
Old 05-12-2004, 08:13 AM   #7
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I just tried that yesterday, and the online update offered me only a slightly newer 2.4 kernel rather than a 2.6 one. Apparently SuSE 9.1 features are not supposed to be available through the online update function.

Robin
 
Old 05-12-2004, 05:29 PM   #8
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To get the kernel-source for the 2.6.5 kernels on rpm as Caeda said go to

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub

from there go to

people

once there go to

mantel/kotd/<arch>

and there you should find the rpm packages, if its kinda criptic heres the full path:


ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/kotd/<arch>

where <arch> is the architecture of your computer, this guy has kernels for the following architectures:

i386 - ia64 - ppc - ppc64 - s390 - s390x - x86_64
 
Old 05-13-2004, 09:32 AM   #9
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Ahah! Finally found the instructions I used Just ignore the version numbers as its a few versions out of date Still useful though.

http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~mr349/suse_kernel_26.html
 
Old 05-13-2004, 01:58 PM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by Coproscefalo

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/kotd/<arch>

where <arch> is the architecture of your computer, this guy has kernels for the following architectures:

i386 - ia64 - ppc - ppc64 - s390 - s390x - x86_64
Thanks very much, I have just downloaded the rpms from the location you've given me. Now I only need to drink an awful lot of strong tequila to find the bravery to try upgrading the kernel. This will be my first kernel update (as opposed to complete replacement of a distribution).

Robin
 
Old 05-14-2004, 12:27 PM   #11
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sup

yes i got the latest kernel of the day the other day 2.6.5-11.15 and i compiled it everything works great good speed increase and awesome stability even compiled 3d support for my radeon with the same guide i made for the 2.6.4 kernel
 
Old 05-16-2004, 11:40 PM   #12
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good speed increase?

hmm ... i can't say i noticed that much when i went up from 2.4.22 to 2.6.1 ... i suppose you notice speed decrease, more than it's increase. ....

I know that certain aspects (on paper) are faster, but then there are also slowdowns ... Overall yes, i'd say 2.6 is faster, but ... i don't notice that much

OpenOffice is still slow to load :-P
 
  


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