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06-29-2014, 02:25 PM
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Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
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Originally Posted by turboscrew
Should slackware accept "forcepae" boot parameter?
To me it complains about pae not supported.
(Most Pentium M processors support PAE, but not the pae-flag.)
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Use the non-smp kernel, that one is compiled without PAE.
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06-29-2014, 05:32 PM
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Registered: Apr 2009
Location: Nokia (town), Finland
Distribution: Mint, Debian
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Slackware didn't install. I knew it when at some point the installer complained about not being able to recognize my graphics chip.
It ended up with restart (reset?) loop.
I probably made some other mistakes too by canceling some setting. I didn't get back but went to the next phase.
Just like with Red Hat ~30 years ago, except no need to manually edit X configurations for graphics and display (figuring out the resolutions and clocks was a P.I.T.A).
Very nostalgic experience anyway. :-)
I think I'll try again as soon as I have time.
Last edited by turboscrew; 06-29-2014 at 05:35 PM.
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06-30-2014, 12:30 AM
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Location: Nokia (town), Finland
Distribution: Mint, Debian
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Some weird glitch.
This morning it installed fine.
Even with KDE it installed and booted in about the same time OpenSUSE took to boot from LiveCD!
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06-30-2014, 12:51 AM
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Registered: Oct 2008
Distribution: Slackware [64]-X.{0|1|2|37|-current} ::12<=X<=15, FreeBSD_12{.0|.1}
Posts: 6,354
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Originally Posted by turboscrew
Some weird glitch.
This morning it installed fine.
Even with KDE it installed and booted in about the same time OpenSUSE took to boot from LiveCD!
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Great! If I understood you correctly, you now have Slackware running!?
From your earlier post I was not sure what to think of it, an unrecognized video card should not prevent installation.
It may be morning for you - but it is midnight for me and I am closing down. Hope all goes well with it, please let us know whether you have problems or not, and post any questions, I'll check in tomorrow!
EDIT - By the way, please post the output of lspci if you would, pluse memory size and maybe disk setup, just so we know what other hardware you have. Good luck, I hope that you like it!
Last edited by astrogeek; 06-30-2014 at 12:55 AM.
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06-30-2014, 03:19 AM
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Location: Nokia (town), Finland
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Yep, with KDE, although had to 'startx' - it booted to command line. Not really even a nuisance.
This time no complaints about the graphics or anything else during the installation.
(This time I used defaults almost everywhere.)
The machine is IBM THINKPAD T42-2373-F2G
Intel Pentium M 735 / 1.7 GHz
AGP 4x - ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 - 32 MB DDR SDRAM
Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
And a funny CD/DVD that reads and writes CD/RWs, reads DVD-R and RVD+r and can't even read rewritable DVDs.
1 GB RAM (max 2GB) and HDD changed to 160GB (max.)
I guess in case of questions/problems I'm now qualified to ask in the Slackware-forum. ;-)
(Currently at work.)
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06-30-2014, 01:42 PM
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Registered: Oct 2008
Distribution: Slackware [64]-X.{0|1|2|37|-current} ::12<=X<=15, FreeBSD_12{.0|.1}
Posts: 6,354
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Originally Posted by turboscrew
Yep, with KDE, although had to 'startx' - it booted to command line. Not really even a nuisance.
This time no complaints about the graphics or anything else during the installation.
(This time I used defaults almost everywhere.)
The machine is IBM THINKPAD T42-2373-F2G
Intel Pentium M 735 / 1.7 GHz
AGP 4x - ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 - 32 MB DDR SDRAM
Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
And a funny CD/DVD that reads and writes CD/RWs, reads DVD-R and RVD+r and can't even read rewritable DVDs.
1 GB RAM (max 2GB) and HDD changed to 160GB (max.)
I guess in case of questions/problems I'm now qualified to ask in the Slackware-forum. ;-)
(Currently at work.)
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Great, thanks! Slackware will be happy on that one!
Yes, Slackware boots to the console by default, a simple edit of default runlevel in /etc/inittab will take you to a graphical login. I spend much of my time in console with tmux'ed shells and prefer to start x only on demand, your prefs may vary.
You can try other DEs by changing the client to startx (Ex: startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox, my choice). To change the default simply change the xinitrc symlink in that location, or edit your home ~/.xinitrc
Be sure to create an unpriviledged user an not run X as root, etc. etc...
Welcome to Slackware and the Slackware forums!
Last edited by astrogeek; 06-30-2014 at 01:46 PM.
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06-30-2014, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by astrogeek
Great, thanks! Slackware will be happy on that one!
Yes, Slackware boots to the console by default, a simple edit of default runlevel in /etc/inittab will take you to a graphical login. I spend much of my time in console with tmux'ed shells and prefer to start x only on demand, your prefs may vary.
You can try other DEs by changing the client to startx (Ex: startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox, my choice). To change the default simply change the xinitrc symlink in that location, or edit your home ~/.xinitrc
Be sure to create an unpriviledged user an not run X as root, etc. etc...
Welcome to Slackware and the Slackware forums!
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No worries. I used SunOS and BSD Unix in the 90's.
I kinda got used to login and say 'startx' - if I wanted to do something using GUI.
Nothing really needs to do with it. I think I might even like it better this way
(after all these years).
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07-25-2014, 09:18 PM
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Registered: Dec 2013
Location: Lawton, Oklahoma
Distribution: Arch.
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Originally Posted by TobiSGD
Some distributions have pretty long support (Slackware, RHEL/CentOS/SL) while other offer LTS versions (long term support, for example Ubuntu, Mint, possibly to some extent Debian in the future, openSuse's Evergreen versions). You could also use a rolling release distro, like Arch, Gentoo, PCLinuxOS, Manjaro, CRUX, ..., which constantly update (in some cases you can say which packages should be updated and which not) so that you don't have to reinstall ever, but this may be contrary to your "stability" requirement.
In any case, if you want to do serious work on a distribution I would think that a short look on a live-CD is not sufficient to determine if a distribution is the right one for you, you should do some real installations for testing purposes.
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Actually, you can have a reasonably stable roller that is suitable for a serious productivity machine, stick to the stable repos if using Arch or Manjaro, or the stable Portage tree if using Gentoo, instead of using unstable repos or Portage trees, and stick to official repos or sources as much as you can, like you would in Ubuntu, for example, on the fixed-release side, stick to the stable release and avoid PPAs as much as possible. Also, running the LTS kernel can help as well, although that's optional as the stock kernel works just fine.
Also, learned the hard way that running unstable repos can give you hell regardless of whether you're running a roller or a fixed-release distro, ran the testing repos both in Fedora and Arch, had a lot of breakages in both. Most recent breakage in Testing I experienced, a GTK2 breakage, which prevented me from logging into MATE, as in it booted me right back to LXDM whenever I attempted to login, was pretty much the last straw and I've been running just the stable repos since. No major breakages so far.
Last edited by LinuxGeek2305; 07-25-2014 at 09:56 PM.
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