Actually it was more like "you're confirming ESR's analysis of hacker behavior patterns and attitudes".

So do I, btw

[quote]Where did the bashing happen?[quote]
All logically named, and highly self-explanatory....

...maybe `mock' would be a better word.

Agreed. I would have hoped you argued in a eeny-weeny more... polite way.

Well, I'm not acusing you of an ad hominem attack or anything of that sort.

Like I said (well, implied (well, tried to imply))--feel free to treat Skrilla as you see fit. I hope you'll shoot down his arguments, assertions and statements in a respectful way
(your last one gets an A- )

>> Then again: I'm not telling you to do it. I'm asking you to do it.
> I appreciate that.

So we're friends now?

--Jonas

Well said. Well written.

Heh - good on yah ;)


C'mon now ... I wasn't rude, not even cynical. And there's
nothing wrong with a bit of irony in the face of such a boldly
presented misconception! :}

I don't know about THAT ;}

But I've always valued your contributions, and think you're
a great asset for the site!



Cheers,
Tink

Well, I still don't understand what exactly your problem
is. If you don't like compiling stuff from source, choose
debian, there's almost nothing one wouldn't get as a deb
package from their exhaustive repositories. SuSE has
actually got a pretty big repertoire, too, back in the days
when I bought SuSE professional they even shipped it
with the Sun version of OpenOffice. Use Gentoo, someone
assured me that their collection of packages is big, too.

Good luck with finding volunteers who rush in to make
something that you find sensible. You see, even though many
projects are being supported by people who work in companies
that actually make a profit of Linux the thing as a whole is still
JUST community-driven. There is no marketing force, there is
no long term plan for market saturation. It's from geeks, for geeks.

There's no profit made from "Linux". Of course, distro's make
money, but that only for 'their' set-up, 'their' package-management.


Cheers,
Tink

NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME SO NEVERMIND
thx

/me is flattered

Thank you

I'm not money driven but no one really cares on this site anyways.

I'm sorry for my outburst last night, I think I missjudjed your intent. Please don't think any individuals comments make up the thoughts of the entire community, judging by your comments as a whole, you may be better off using BSD as a base for your project as it is a more unified system. Play with linux until you have a good set of tools, it'll take work but it may all be worth it in the end.
Regards.

Don't go join ussss. http://www.geocities.com/reverendsky/tux-borgweb.jpg

Yeah, I know. There aren't enough members on this site to get a real representative sample of what needs to be done in Linux.

Maybe we could find a visionary that could bring their entrepreneurial skills here and lead the way for a better desktop?

I *do* hope that you're being sarcastic :)

Otherwise we'd have to assume that you don't understand
how Linux (the community and the varied development
streams) works, either.


Cheers,
Tink

I have used Windows since Win98, never even heard of Linux until Sept of 2004. A friend gave me a couple of LiveCds to play around with. Knoppix and PCLinuxOS. It was so cool I just had to install it.

So I looked around and finally settled on Debian, using Kanotix I did a Debian Sid install on both my laptop and dekstop in November 2004.I was dual booting with WinME and Debian until my windows HD died. Since then I am only using Debian GNU/Linux, and I have not missed Windows even once.

I consider myself very new to Linux. By reading the documentation that is available I was able to get multimedia working, use GIMP to manipulate images and use different apps to work on webpages.

Installing programs is as simple as opening Synaptic and clicking on the app or using apt-get install program from a terminal.

I even managed to install wine and get IE6, and MSOfiice2000 working.Installed Firefox for windows using wine just today, it works great.

So I really don't see why people keep complaining that Linux is not ready for the desktop or is too hard to use.

I don't know a whole lot about computers, I am not a computer geek, no certifications in anything computer related. I am a wedding officiant and use Linux mostly to surf the net and for word processing,GIMP, and working on my webpages. Although I do have over 100 games installed.

Anyone that says it is too difficult is either too lazy to learn or just plain unwilling to learn a new system. Linux rocks. Just my 2cents and not meant to be a bash on anyone.

[quote]I *do* hope that you're being sarcastic [quote]

You should look at his profile, too, Tinkster. Then you'll understand

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Why on earth anyone would do that is something I cannot comprehend. But suit yourself.

And that's the key phrase: `suit yourself'. That's what GNU/Linux is about to me--realising one's needs and fulfilling them (no matter what anyone else tells you).

Agreed--but know that you could come off as arrogant.

Which is good

--Jonas

Heh - most welcome.

supposed visionary.. :lol: