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View Poll Results: Which is better Office
MS Office 2003 20 23.81%
OpenOffice 60 71.43%
StarOffice 5 5.95%
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:03 AM   #1
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Cool MS Office 2003 & Wine

I am using Fedora 7 and just installed MS Office 2003 using Wine as root. The installation went flawlessly. The problem is when I try to open one of the MS Office applications, it gave me this dialog box, "Microsoft Office Excell has not been installed for the current user. Please run setup to install the application". Anyone with same problem? TQiAdv!
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That is why there is a commercial derivative of wine called Crossover Office specifically to address business type applications. .. Oh looks like it's been renamed to Crossover Linux..

Personally I just run OpenOffice on my Linux machines as well as the Windows PC I use at work. I have no troubles viewing documents from coworkers, or creating documents they can read. I just can't bring myself to spend that much money on MS office applications when there are several perfectly usable office solutions for low-cost or free. I'll probably NEVER need all the additional features that are in MS Office, or half the features in OpenOffice for that matter. But at least OpenOffice isn't a new file format with every version.. I can't begin to tell you all the issues that come up from getting documents from Outside our office that no-one can open because they were created with a newer version of office.. what a crock.

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Old 08-27-2007, 01:50 PM   #3
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why would you need to use Microsoft office anyway, open office can read ms office files and save in them so there is no need
Old 08-27-2007, 06:03 PM   #4
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I want to test whether MS Office 2003 can run smoothly in Linux ... Thereś no point of using Wine if I couldn't use MS apps. By the way, TQ!

p.s; Still, if any other solutions other than Crossover Office, it would be fine for me.
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Why do I use MS-Office 2003

I write in two languages -- English and French. (occasionally Spanish)

Before I send an email to a client, I need to insure that the grammar is good. OO does not have a grammar checker. And the spelling checker has many errors. (Accents added where none belong, or vice-versa.)

As French is my second language, I need a good conjugating program. If that is a masculine word, drop the extra E at the end. I need answers to "What accents to the words take...."

When OO provides a comparable grammar checker, and an easy way to work multiple languages in a common document, I will increase my use of it.

One more thing. My MS-word file saves at 79k, but OO saves it as 150k, more than double. That causes problems with some uploads to certain sites that restrict attachments to less than 100k.

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First post here!!

I chooosed Star Office for 2 reasons :

1) I did the tech support in the past for that prog.
2) Star Office is simply the milestone of OOo. Even more, without Star Office, never OOo would have exist.

Anyway there is still problem : the compatibility is not 100%, Using SO or OOo with a winxp machine is fine, but there is still remanent problems with many Linux distib (remenber the Red hat 9.xx or worst the Suze (the release made in 2001).

SO and OOo, at the opposite of any M$ products, need the user to have some knowledges and have him make some tuning of both the soft and the OS. For exemple is no grammar checker exist, why not contribuate to create one? Anyway that kind of tool is possible to do for french (Bled as reference), but for english it could be tricky (aussie english, or red neck english?). Same apply for speeling/usage of words ... " IL a beaucoup de blondes" make sense for a canadian person, but is totally meaningless to a french one. Do you spell it colour or color? I lost a client 2 years ago for that kind of spelling details.
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Open Office for home and work laptop. It is free and it does everything that I want to do. If the client is willing to pay for $400 for an Office 2007 license, I will use it. MsOffice has tons of features that are missing in OpenOffice, but it is $400 for a full version. These days, $400 buys a brand new laptop. Also, using pirated apps at client sites can create an immediate termination. I don't know how much you guys get paid, but $400 is a lot of money to throw away to Bill Gates.
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I chose OpenOffice mainly for its compatibility. It has a plethora of utilities, as well as language packs in the two languages I use (English/French). It's largest ability to me is it's ability to read and write to multiple file formats, as I have documents in *.wpd, *.doc, and other formats that I would obviously like to have access to without the need for multiple word processors. I also enjoy the fact that I can use OpenOffice regardless of the OS I choose to use. OK, the cost is also incentive...
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answer the man

I belive what is asked for by the threadstarter is not a debate on what Office program to run. but HOW to run MS office 2003. he askes later on for other programs than crossover linux and people seem to continue the debate. go to your own thread.

I am sorry I have no solution to your problem. I run a dual boot hence I belive that MS office runs best on a MS enviroment. I have my games and stuff there too. but for office work and stuff like that I still use openSUSE 10.2 (hands up)
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And what about Gnome office? AbiWord, GNumeric, Gimp and so on... ?
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I use OpenOffice, but bought a couple of licenses to StarOffice to support Sun. I also donate to a few times a year. Anything that use ODF is gold.
Old 08-28-2007, 08:40 AM   #12
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Your mother probably hasn't told you never to install Wine apps as root! I don't know if your problem begins here, but I feel there is a problem. Never give a program permission it doesn't need. If you wanted to share the installation among more users I believe there are other ways, such as installing the apps in a shared directory under /home or so.

Have you tried installing it under your account first?

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Old 08-28-2007, 08:41 AM   #13
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zridling: welcome to LQ!

I bought office 97 at a thrift store for $1.29 about a year ago. I use OpenOffice anyway. Sure office 97 is compatible with every office document out there (not counting OOxml), but openoffice is expandable through extensions, it supports odf, and it is just an overall better program. It also has a portable version you can install on a usb drive and work on your odf files on any Windows computer as well. I can't see anyone doing that with MS office. It doesn't has grammar checking though, and none of the grammar checking extensions work very well. They are planning this for version 2.4, if you want to wait.
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Originally Posted by way3000 View Post
I belive what is asked for by the threadstarter is not a debate on what Office program to run. but HOW to run MS office 2003. he askes later on for other programs than crossover linux and people seem to continue the debate. go to your own thread.
Actually, it's also a poll of the best office suite. Relax.
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Smile Give me OpenOffice, or give me ... vi

I love openoffice, use it on both the primary machine (linux) and on winders. The price is certainly right, and the features are endless.

While MS Word might offer a few more things, the cost of those few more things is just not worth it to me. Most of them I would not use anyway.

The only weakness I have noticed is if I add graphics to an ooo doc, and export it as w2K, the images don't always show up in Word. Not a happy situation if you really do need 100% compatibility. There is a possibility it is related to a word 2000 vs word 2003 incompatibility (of which there are many).

But given any reasonable opportunity, and I'll choose ooo every time.


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