[SOLVED] LPIC-1 updates: systemd and upstart

matiasar · 09-03-2012, 09:17 AM

I'm preparing for LPIC-1 exams.

I found that recently (july 2012) LPIC-1 got some of its topics updated:

Regarding topic 101.3 "Change runlevels or reboot system" included explicit coverage of systemd and upstart, as alternative to good old Unix SysV.

I'm not familiar yet with both upstart or systemd and those tools aren't covered in the books I have (they are editions from 2000 to 2005).
Could anybody point me some docs or overviews that could serve me to give me an insight to this topics?

JaseP · 10-01-2012, 01:24 AM

LPIC??? Seriously?! No offense,... but please look at topic threads, here and, more importantly, other places,... comparing the RedHat certs vs. LPI certs before spending your money.

An LPIC-3 Cert might get you a Jr. Admin position somewhere.

onebuck · 10-01-2012, 09:15 AM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaseP

LPIC??? Seriously?! No offense,... but please look at topic threads, here and, more importantly, other places,... comparing the RedHat certs vs. LPI certs before spending your money.

An LPIC-3 Cert might get you a Jr. Admin position somewhere.

Each of us handle our education and enlightenment in different ways. Some users feel comfortable with LPIC. I could say the same with RedHat certs that are money grabbers. You can get a firm understanding about a topic in many ways. Tech schools, Jr College, University educations can lead to a degree but will that fill the needs for employment? Really depends on the scope of the program and how one commits to learn.

So, please take that in consideration when addressing new or even older users when attempting to get advice on subjects here.

linuxlearner17 · 10-05-2012, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaseP

LPIC??? Seriously?! No offense,... but please look at topic threads, here and, more importantly, other places,... comparing the RedHat certs vs. LPI certs before spending your money.

An LPIC-3 Cert might get you a Jr. Admin position somewhere.

I'm going to have to agree with onebuck here there is no need to trash another's pursuit or choice of education & certification.

LPIC and Comptia have teamed up to revamp the cert and make it relevant to the users out there today. I am sitting the CompTIA Linux+ cert in a few weeks and well it's tougher than the RHCSA just on the merit that you have to know your command structure instead of being given the option to look at a MAN page. My employer (who by the way is also on the Fortune 500 list) acknowledges it and actually appreciate that it's a vendor neutral cert. It gives experience in Linux which will translate into understanding and supporting how the other .nix* enterprise distributions we use in day to day operations.

Go get em matiasar - let us know how you do!

I will let you know how I do as well...

Respect to onebuck for stepping in and your great advice.

matiasar · 10-09-2012, 07:44 AM

Thanks for your advices.
IMO, LPIC fact of being vendor independant is important.
Good luck and regards,
Matías

muahahaha9001 · 11-19-2012, 10:49 AM

Glad to see someone talking about LPIC-1 on here. Good luck passing!

I'm studying for the LPIC-1 as well. Were there any other updates to the 2012 LPPC-1? A link to the page that lists them would be helpful.

Thanks.

matiasar · 11-20-2012, 06:10 AM

Hi muahahaha9001,

I studied for 101 (now preparing 102) exame following the following LPI guides:

https://www.lpi.org/linux-certificat...ic-1/exam-101/
https://www.lpi.org/linux-certificat...ic-1/exam-102/

Within those both pages you have a link to updates as July 2 2012. As far as I'm concerned there wasn't more updates. If anybody knows about more update please let us know.

Good luck fellow!

linuxlearner17 · 11-21-2012, 08:49 AM

Hey everyone,

Just reporting back to my original post with some exciting news...

I passed part 1 (of 2) of the CompTIA Linux+ exam earlier in this month. It was a fair exam and it felt great to pass! While some others on here may not find that it is as challenging as a RHCSA or RHCSE exam this first part definitely covers alot of material & information.

The exam is vendor agnostic so I was forced to learn alot about the different platforms (ie Debian vs RPM), learned SED and how to properly manage both processes and filesystems in Linux. This was only part 1 and you can imagine they could ask just about any question from dpkg to rpm to fsck with all it's switches and syntaxes (and you have no man page to refer to)....All in all it was good studying experience and exam and I will begin studying for part 2 in January.

I set up some VMs running CentOS 6 and Ubuntu LTS 12.04. In doing that and playing with the machines following the study guides and examples I ended up feeling more comfortable administering a Linux distro. I can now perform the day to day admin tasks (both at work and at home) with a more in depth understanding of why things are the way they are in Linux because of my studies.

Anyhow thanks to everyone for their support - if anyone has any questions let me know as I would be happy to give back to this community considering how much help it has provided me over the years.

Thanks again!

ilesterg · 09-11-2013, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaseP

LPIC??? Seriously?! No offense,... but please look at topic threads, here and, more importantly, other places,... comparing the RedHat certs vs. LPI certs before spending your money.

An LPIC-3 Cert might get you a Jr. Admin position somewhere.

Hi all,

I personally prefer LPI's curriculum. I'd use it as a guide in case I plan to take ANY Linux exam in the future.

linuxlearner17 · 09-12-2013, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilesterg

Hi all,

I personally prefer LPI's curriculum. I'd use it as a guide in case I plan to take ANY Linux exam in the future.

@ilesterg - I wholeheartedly agree. I found studying for this certification quite intensive as there was so much material to cover. Plus with it being vendor agnostic and distro neutral you are expected to know the different architectures (.rpm vs .deb) which helps strengthen your skill set. Just my 0.02...

mickg01 · 09-25-2013, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebuck

Hi,

Each of us handle our education and enlightenment in different ways. Some users feel comfortable with LPIC. I could say the same with RedHat certs that are money grabbers. You can get a firm understanding about a topic in many ways. Tech schools, Jr College, University educations can lead to a degree but will that fill the needs for employment? Really depends on the scope of the program and how one commits to learn.

So, please take that in consideration when addressing new or even older users when attempting to get advice on subjects here.

I would add to this that the cost is not only higher but being in central Florida, as I am, I would need to travel to Miami to take Red Hat certification while LPI has a few local choices right here in Tampa. Since I'm following this path as much out of personal interest as career objectives, on my own dollar, LPI wins my vote hands down.

onebuck · 09-25-2013, 07:47 AM

Hi,

Welcome to LQ!

I still feel education depends on personal choices & abilities. Not all will sit well with RedHat while others may find LPIC challenging.

I have been in this field for many decades and did not need certs, just training and continued education. This quote says it all;

Quote:

"Knowledge is of two kinds. We Know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it."- Samuel Johnson

Theory & practical;

Quote:

“Theory is when you know all and nothing works. Practice is when all works and nobody knows why. In this case we have put together theory and practice: nothing works... and nobody knows why!” - Albert Einstein

Good Tech lovers motto;

Quote:

"Knowledge of mankind is a knowledge of their passions." - Disraeli

“Passions unguided are for the most part mere madness.”- Thomas Hobbes

A few more to chew on;

Quote:

“A tool is but the extension of a man's hand and a machine is but a complex tool. He that invents a machine augments the power of man and the well being of mankind.” - Henry Ward Beecher

“Man is a tool-using animal.”- Carlyle

“One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man.”- Elbert Hubbard

“Men have become the tools of their tools”- Thoreau, Walden

Education can be difficult or it can be challenging when one puts energy in the right places.