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I am preparing for RHCSA - RHEL7 exam. I have materials, but people praise Michael Jang's book a lot. Can i use it? (6th edition)
I am asking it, because this book is for RHEL6, and i am going to get RHEL7 in exam. Could anyone advise me who used this book for RHCSA - RHEL7 exam?
I am preparing for RHCSA - RHEL7 exam. I have materials, but people praise Michael Jang's book a lot. Can i use it? (6th edition)I am asking it, because this book is for RHEL6, and i am going to get RHEL7 in exam.
No you shouldn't be using that book. Not because there is something wrong with the book but due to the fact that the book is for RHEL 6 and not for RHEL 7. There are major changes between RHEL 6 and RHEL 7 so if you are referring a RHEL 6 book for RHEL 7 exam you will be in trouble.
If you want to use that book for study purpose and not from exam perspective then yes you can use it.
If you have no prior experience on Linux I would suggest undergoing Red Hat training. If that is not feasible then you can self study with the material available on the internet.
Edit: Forgot to mention you can use CentOS 7 for testing purpose and refer the docs available for managing CentOS 7. Here is one of the link on administring RHEL 7 : https://access.redhat.com/documentat...trators_Guide/
Last edited by T3RM1NVT0R; 03-24-2015 at 07:29 PM.
No you shouldn't be using that book. Not because there is something wrong with the book but due to the fact that the book is for RHEL 6 and not for RHEL 7. There are major changes between RHEL 6 and RHEL 7 so if you are referring a RHEL 6 book for RHEL 7 exam you will be in trouble.
If you want to use that book for study purpose and not from exam perspective then yes you can use it.
If you have no prior experience on Linux I would suggest undergoing Red Hat training. If that is not feasible then you can self study with the material available on the internet.
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Thank you, so much for this detailed answer. I was completely amateur on linux two weeks ago, but now i know some basic commands, as well as user management, LDAP and etc. Exam is in approx. 20th of april. I am not going to pay that unreasonable price to RedHat for few hours of training. I have installed Ubuntu as a main OS, and CentOS server with GUI on VM. I have video set called "RHCSA/RHCSE live sessions" by Person, Inc, found on rhatcertification.com. I have Red Hat's official sysadmin training books (I II) (RH124 and etc). But none of them tells me how exam will be, though i saw some great details on Michael Jang's book that's why i wanted to use it as supplementary group.
Have you taken exam? Do you recommend any guide book or video set for RHCSA - RHEL7?
Nope I was talking about my own personal lab. As I said most of the objectives which were part of then RHCSA I have done on job. I used to play around with my lab for practice.
I'll have my EX200 on 17.4. Started with Jangs book when the swap to RHEL7 occoured.
Alot changes between RHEL6 and 7. firewalld, systemd etc.
Jang's book was a good starting point for console basics, acl,... but I changed then to information on the web like certdepot.com and bought the video from Sander van Vugt.
He also offer an alpha of his new book about RHCSA/RHEL which is quite good imho and conforms to his video.
Now I'm through all objectives and practise,practise,practise.
Most problems for me are the nervous as I don't know what will come up to me..
I'll have my EX200 on 17.4. Started with Jangs book when the swap to RHEL7 occoured.
Alot changes between RHEL6 and 7. firewalld, systemd etc.
Jang's book was a good starting point for console basics, acl,... but I changed then to information on the web like certdepot.com and bought the video from Sander van Vugt.
He also offer an alpha of his new book about RHCSA/RHEL which is quite good imho and conforms to his video.
Now I'm through all objectives and practise,practise,practise.
Most problems for me are the nervous as I don't know what will come up to me..
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have Mr. Sander's book and video course too, hope it will help. I am worried about exam.
As it is in a couple of days: Relax (At least I try to :-)
-Remember to make everything permanent
-Memorize how to reset root password (mentioned alot, not sure whether or not have to do it)
-Do the quizzes and tests online and from Sanders
-Start your private exam. Create a system with unknown password. Take every objective and create a task which has to be solved. Then solve your tasks in 2.5h
If we don't get it the first time, at least we know the internals of the exam and succeed the second approach!
As it is in a couple of days: Relax (At least I try to :-)
-Remember to make everything permanent
-Memorize how to reset root password (mentioned alot, not sure whether or not have to do it)
-Do the quizzes and tests online and from Sanders
-Start your private exam. Create a system with unknown password. Take every objective and create a task which has to be solved. Then solve your tasks in 2.5h
If we don't get it the first time, at least we know the internals of the exam and succeed the second approach!
Good luck!
Thank you so much. I appreciate these. My friend passed exam, he says: "There was a guy who couldn't reset root password for entire exam.". That's a pity. Fortunately, i know some non-objective themes to stress on. Thank you, again. Good luck!
Your well-practiced instincts for "passing a test in school" are only so-so relevant here. In this case, you're actually trying to learn an on-the-job survival skill, such that "passing a test" is simply a meaningful demonstration of it.
On the one hand, each incarnation of these tests is intended to cover more-or-less the same set of competencies. On the other, they're updated to be specific to a particular release of the software product. If you use an older study-guide, also look at the new features of later releases and pay attention to how you would "survive" if those new-and-different features were in place.
When you're studying the material and, most importantly, doing the exercises, that's when you are actually learning something. Although I've never bothered, myself, to take one of those exams, I do find the study-guides useful in discussing what sort of problems you might run into "on the job," and how to get out of them. (You can pick up "last year's model" of those guides at any used book store, for a song.)
Your well-practiced instincts for "passing a test in school" are only so-so relevant here. In this case, you're actually trying to learn an on-the-job survival skill, such that "passing a test" is simply a meaningful demonstration of it.
On the one hand, each incarnation of these tests is intended to cover more-or-less the same set of competencies. On the other, they're updated to be specific to a particular release of the software product. If you use an older study-guide, also look at the new features of later releases and pay attention to how you would "survive" if those new-and-different features were in place.
When you're studying the material and, most importantly, doing the exercises, that's when you are actually learning something. Although I've never bothered, myself, to take one of those exams, I do find the study-guides useful in discussing what sort of problems you might run into "on the job," and how to get out of them. (You can pick up "last year's model" of those guides at any used book store, for a song.)
Thank you! Your explanation and ideas are clear enough to lead anybody right to the exam. I would agree with you about certification rally amongst IT people, but it depends on certification. Since, RHCSA is practice-based exam, I appreciate it. There are very well-known companies providing test-based certificates that actually are nothing. And also, when you are student nobody wants to give chance to you for job. Even if you study at "the university" which teaches nothing, NOTHING except subjects that you don't need. So, my situation is different...
In my career I have been both a professional trainer, a course designer, and an (adjunct) community-college instructor ... so I absolutely agree with you that RHCSA is taking the right approach: their system is practice-based. You have to get into the water, and you have to swim to shore. Red Hat has some very good people behind those courses. They're top-notch. Quality stuff worth paying for. (Maybe.)
I do not agree with you that "when you are a student, nobody wants to give you a chance." And I also do not agree with the notion that "a certification is the Golden Ticket that will change that." Everyone, at some time or another in their career, was "that student."
Quite a few of us, also, have been on the other side of The Desk.
(As will you, most likely. Maybe a decade or so from now. [Not so long, really.] By the way ...)
Welcome to the time-honored game of sales. When you're trying to get a job ... especially(!) your first one ... then youare a salesman. Therefore, you've got to figure out how to find those "qualified prospects," who do, in fact, want to buy, yes, from you, and "close the sale." It's frustrating, yes, but every salesman throughout history has figured out how to do it and so can you.
Tom Watson, Sr., the founder of IBM, had the following parable:
Quote:
Two shoe-salesmen were sent to Pango-Pango to check out prospects. Both of them immediately wired back:
COMING HOME NEXT BOAT X NO ONE HERE WEARS SHOES.
MARVELOUS OPPORTUNITY X SEND ALL YOU HAVE X NO ONE HERE WEARS SHOES.
If you conclude that certifications will help you to be a better employee to the folks who subsequently hire you, and especially if you conclude that it will help you "close the sale," then ... go for it, and with my blessings. But, "there is no Golden Ticket." No one, other than you, will make the sale for you.
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In my career I have been both a professional trainer, a course designer, and an (adjunct) community-college instructor ... so I absolutely agree with you that RHCSA is taking the right approach: their system is practice-based. You have to get into the water, and you have to swim to shore. Red Hat has some very good people behind those courses. They're top-notch. Quality stuff worth paying for. (Maybe.)
I do not agree with you that "when you are a student, nobody wants to give you a chance." And I also do not agree with the notion that "a certification is the Golden Ticket that will change that." Everyone, at some time or another in their career, was "that student."
Quite a few of us, also, have been on the other side of The Desk.
(As will you, most likely. Maybe a decade or so from now. [Not so long, really.] By the way ...)
Welcome to the time-honored game of sales. When you're trying to get a job ... especially(!) your first one ... then youare a salesman. Therefore, you've got to figure out how to find those "qualified prospects," who do, in fact, want to buy, yes, from you, and "close the sale." It's frustrating, yes, but every salesman throughout history has figured out how to do it and so can you.
Tom Watson, Sr., the founder of IBM, had the following parable:
If you conclude that certifications will help you to be a better employee to the folks who subsequently hire you, and especially if you conclude that it will help you "close the sale," then ... go for it, and with my blessings. But, "there is no Golden Ticket." No one, other than you, will make the sale for you.
I enjoyed reading every single line of your answer. Thank you for inspiring me, and telling secret-realities. I have to learn making "sale", before getting into real life. Thank you again.
PS: Could you, please, add me to your circles on GOOGLE+?
I don't use Google+! I am remarkably free of "social networking."
Y'know, one more thing I'd say: "This'll make a lot more sense when you, one day, are sitting on 'the other side of The Desk.'" ...
... and in the meantime, "try to put yourself there."
You are the person who's glumly staring at a stack of resumes. You need someone. Let's even say that you need an entry-level someone. You've got to make a purchase. You're going to live with that purchase (you hope ...) for quite a long time. You are a qualified buyer: you have an authorization from HR, you have the budget, and you have the need. How, exactly, are you ... going to make your decision? The first candidate will be here in half an hour, and it promises to be a very long day. How, exactly, are you ...?
Any good salesman will try to put himself into his customer's shoes, because the salesman is "successful," not merely if he walks out the door with a signed contract, but if the business arrangement that he has brokered is truly beneficial to the customer as well as to himself. His reputation depends on it.
Perhaps you can see, then, how "certification" might either be played as a very effective credential in a successful sales presentation, or it could be a hinderance. You can't buy a "halo." This card might prove to be "a very strong high-card," but it won't be (to borrow a contract-bridge term ...) "an ace of no-trumps." Depending on how you read the situation as it develops, you might not even choose to play it at all.
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Can i use Michael Jang's RHCSA book?
