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Old 04-26-2009, 10:49 AM   #1
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youth violence


Hello guys, do you think the proliferation of media causes youth violence?? (television, video game, etc) If no, what influenced youth violence?

And what do you think can be done to prevent youth violence?

Share your opinion. Thank.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 10:58 AM   #2
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Hello guys, do you think the proliferation of media causes youth violence?? (television, video game, etc) If no, what influenced youth violence?

And what do you think can be done to prevent youth violence?

Share your opinion. Thank.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 11:15 AM   #3
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To certain extent yes the media is an influence, but it also depends on the state of the mind of the person, and how he/she is brought up. My parents never really restricted me in my entertainment, I played violent games at a young age, listened to that 'devil' music certain christians liked to say, but I dunno, I never really had an urge to pick up a gun and go marauding in my school, or to take my own life, etc.

I have a clear understanding of what is right and what is wrong, and of course my parents had a major role in that. So thats the key right there. I also don't buy the argument that the media should be controlled by the gov and such. No, its the parents job to watch their own kids, and take responsibility for what their kids do.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 11:21 AM   #4
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I think the economy has a strong impact on this for reasons Jeebizz mentions; when both parents have to work they can't be home to ... well, be parents. Not to say that you can't take care of your siblings when your parents aren't around on your own, but it takes a lot of inner strength to do that, and violence can result when that strength fails. This economic problem is not new, the number of families where both parents have to work just to get by has been increasing for decades. It's the reason Americans are workaholics IMO, as we don't want to admit that we're in bad financial situation so we make up the reason that we're just really committed to doing a good job at work and helping the company.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 11:29 AM   #5
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Youth violence occurs as a direct consequence of a failure to civilize those children, and for no other reason.

Western society has turned from discipline to drugs to control children (and, for that matter, adults). This is one of the most insane things that any society has ever done, and we are increasingly paying for it.

To solve the problem? Execute all psychiatrists, ban ritalin, and return to an ethic of discipline.

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Old 04-26-2009, 11:49 AM   #6
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Youth violence occurs as a direct consequence of a failure to civilize those children, and for no other reason.
I think that is a major key. I hope I am not going off track, but I think a major contributor to youth violence, is being ridiculed by one's own peers at school. This I think is far more dangerous than any artist/game/etc, though that can be a catalyst. What I am trying to say is that, to put it in the vernacular, 'bullying' by others can have sever consequences not just to the person who is bullied, (last week, and the week before, two students committed suicide due to being bullied - search google about it).

These two kids acted out against themselves, but the real danger is, how do we know the next kid that gets bullied, won't act out against others, before taking their own lives?
 
Old 04-26-2009, 11:56 AM   #7
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simple123:

Your question is not simple.

Please move this post to its appropriate location. Here we are concerned in helping newbies initially tackle common problems in linux.

Socio-moral issues belong to ethicians and philosophers. Newbies have headaches at familiarizing with their new O.S.

Thanks.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 11:59 AM   #8
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Or better yet, close this thread, since the same is open in general.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 12:19 PM   #9
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Bullying has always happened. School shooters are a recent phenomenon.

Lack of discipline is the key. It has become unfashionable to discipline in this society; that "damages self esteem" or "is cruel". Total nonsense, of course, but this society is thoroughly insane - and as a consequence is in the process of falling.

Also, the overwhelming tendency to drug children is merely exacerbating the problem. Drug 'em into submission...but drugs have side-effects, and drugs don't teach discipline. The result is feral and psychopathic children, who respond to relatively minor abuses by killing their tormenters.

Also, a lack of discipline contributes to a lack of feeling of self-worth and an inability to handle threats such as bullying. In other words, failure of discipline contributes to teen suicides in these cases.

Of course, this isn't accepted by the psycho-iatrists who contend that emotions such as guilt and shame (the "governing emotions", if you will) are bad and should be avoided. These same psycho-iatrists insist that self-esteem should be nurtured in a vacuum, telling kids they are wonderful without providing them with any kind of performance based yardstick to measure that.

They wind up unable to handle adversity. So they pick up guns and kill themselves or others.

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Old 04-26-2009, 12:33 PM   #10
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I'm guessing it's assignment season since we appear to getting threads from brand new members who aren't asking about anything even related to to Linux. Closing this. If you research the boards you post these things on you may actually hit on one that is relevant to your area of study.
 
  


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