Yeah right. You just made lying statements and got called on it.

Anyway, I would still help you on any problems I could. And I wouldn't tell you to google it.

Hahahahahah I know I said I was done posting.........but man

Talking about Pot calling Kettle Black

What a moron. And NO you weren't mocking anyone. You posted that comment on Aug 24th. Before you even made this thread

Good job...

*as I run speedily down the hallway with scissors......I yell out loud to tell this girl I see to quit running because she has scissors in hand*

Okay first of all, none of us here are getting paid to do any of this. Second, the main reason why I or anybody else here would say to google your question is because the Linux community is really good about documenting. There's probably better and more extensive explanations/instructions on the home page of the particular program or whatever than the effort any of us could supply in the limited space of these forums. I have several times googled someones question and simply posted the results of that search. It's important to learn how to search for the answers to your questions yourself. It's faster than sitting around on a forum and waiting for a post, and you'll learn a ton more about the problem through the extra reading.

Well I have to totally agree with that. Personally I started linux about erm....3 years ago and I googled my teeth out.... and i got instant results for 90% of my problems. And people are probabl;y reading this saying yeah but you've got like 11000 posts here etc... but i obviously didn't when i first started. I had zero linux knowledge, but i found it out for myself in a lot lot less time than an average forum question. And i still ask plenty of questions as and when I'm completely out of information that i can find.

As the mod here though.... let's not just insult people. keep it civil, cheers.

What I am curious about is, why didn't you just ask Suse?
http://www.suse.com/us/company/suse/contact/index.html

acid, you just said 90% of your problems! so what about the other 10%?wouldnt you get frustrated if you been googling for it to find nothing, to post on the board to see if any others solved that difficult problem just to be told to google it?

this is not the pot calling the kettle black, not gettin caught in no like, i said a thousand times this is about being told to google when already did that tactic. this is all about asking a question and being told to google. dude didnt even ask a question he said he was gonna install on an hp so i said if he did a search on yahoo./google on linux on laptops he will get more info/tips/tricks on it. he would definately get help.

this is about people telling you to google when the answer is not out there. tell me to google when you def know the answer is out there, not just cuz you wanna tell me to google. acid even said 90% its out there, but that means 10% is not, so its a waste or your time and his to tell him to google when he cant find those 10%.

I wouldn't get annoyed because I swear on all that's holy to me (That'll be Tony Hawk and Kermit the Frog) I always gave (or rather, DO give) proof that i've been to google. and a large portion of that 10% I fixed myself anyway, what with me beng clever and all

thats why your a mod clever man. :P

Come on, h1tman, which is really more productive (since you are concerned about "wasting time"); posting this:
"I only found references to blah, blah on Google which did not answer my question. Any other ideas?"
Or:
"I did a Google search for foo and foo and got no results. Any other ideas?"

Or this:
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Who else hates this bout *nix users?
you post asking a question.
you come back couple of hours later,seeing a reply, and your like oh cool someone solved or is prob gonna have some suggestions to my problem or answer my question. just to find out the person is telling you to google the question or read something.
i REALLY hate that. if you not gonna post a real reply dont reply. if you know the answer tell me. you have no clue if i googled already and couldnt find an answer that worked for me. and that im posting for anymore suggestions. so saying google it is just wasting both of our times.

i was a mac user for a long time, and whenever i had a problem i always got help. noone ever told me go google for the answer.
once i asked about Suse's stock options. someone told me to google it, i replied i did and couldnt find nothing, then he said try frankfurt exchange, i replied i did couldnt find no information, he replied back wit a link to the frnkfurt exchange, i replied i found the link but theres nothing about Suse's quote. the thread at like 10 posts before finally someone came in and said Suse's stock isnt public or something.
i googled, searched and couldnt find the answer, so i figured someone would know so i posted only to get some lame telling me to google for it like hes a great help.
if i say something like whats the command to list the files in a directory, okay maybe you can flame me, tell me to look in DOCS, or google.
but google or the docs aint always the answer.
and its like always the first reply telling you to google, like you guys are just waiting for someone to post so you can rush and say google to make yourself feel are guruish.

not talking about bigjohn, talking about the mod
"Possibly you'll need to google.com it... " followed by the sacarsm smiley.
thats after i replied how much a share. then i replied i said how much a share becuz i couldnt find it.
he might as well as told me to google for honda accords, becuz both sites probably had the information i was looking for. you guys keep saying usually when i google i find it. well if any of them had googled themselves or searched the website they was forcing me to look at, wouldve noticed it didnt have the information.
like i said this is mostly *nix users. if i goto a board that isnt populated by linux users, and say hey whats this MSBlast virus all about?you get people telling you useful information. post that on a *nix board and you get flamed like google it, read the source code, or some shit.
if you dont wanna answer the question dont answer it!if you think its too stupid to give a real reply to, dont reply!if you dont know the answer, dont tell the person to keep looking for the answer!
*nix users for most part have a superiority complex. they believe becuz they are linux users they are smarter than a mac/win user or are now able to flame newbies. even if they are a newbie themselves! ive seen people who just installed linux for the first time, tryna be a smart ass to another newbie.
tru its not every linux user, but a way larger percent than mac or windows users.

you keep saying you have limited time so you say google it.
is there apache for windows?
no - two letters
yes - three letters
google it - 8 letters
come on now,you wasting more time by saying google it, then giving the answer if you know it. and 5 letters shouldnt matter to ya, i know you dont have that much of a limited time.
bajanick- you got me there lol.

if its stirring you up, why do you keep posting?
hey ive got a mac, i got a laptop wit xp and slack.
ive been in the mac community for yeearrs, been using windows since 2 years ago. i installed slack last year, but ive had free shell accounts or accounts on a friends box for years.
so ive been on both sides of the fence, never when asking mac or win questions has someone told me to google or read the docs, they always gave me useful tips. thats what made the mac community such a great one. in the *nix community you got people who are mad arrogant just cuz they use *nix.( refering to linux,bsd,etc)
just cuz a question sounds easy, silly or simple to them, they gotta give the person a hard time.

he wasnt even a question. i told him to go for it. and told him the website to get more information bout installin on laptops. i didnt know the url to linux on laptops so i just told him to google for it. there he would get all the help available on isntallin linux on hp laptop.
i said already i agree wit some things being told to google, but most of the time, its like you know the dude knows the answer so why beat around the bush, waste my time and yours.
like asking someone if they know if its gonna rain today, they know the answer, but tell you to buy the paper or go home and watch the weather channel.
imagine a linux user as a 411 operator, "whats the number to joe's pizza", "go google for it or look in the phonebook"
some people say the google thing cuz it really is the best suggestion while others you can tell just do it cuz they arrogant.
and that other due i never accused you of anything.

acid, you just said 90% of your problems! so what about the other 10%?wouldnt you get frustrated if you been googling for it to find nothing, to post on the board to see if any others solved that difficult problem just to be told to google it?
this is not the pot calling the kettle black, not gettin caught in no like, i said a thousand times this is about being told to google when already did that tactic. this is all about asking a question and being told to google. dude didnt even ask a question he said he was gonna install on an hp so i said if he did a search on yahoo./google on linux on laptops he will get more info/tips/tricks on it. he would definately get help.
this is about people telling you to google when the answer is not out there. tell me to google when you def know the answer is out there, not just cuz you wanna tell me to google. acid even said 90% its out there, but that means 10% is not, so its a waste or your time and his to tell him to google when he cant find those 10%.

thats why your a mod clever man. :P
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Seems you have much more anger over this issue than it deserves. If a particular post was rude that should have been delt with or ignored. A general rant about posting links, RTFM, or to Google in response to a question is way to general and vague.
One should not project one's own disappointment onto someone else's attempt to suggest an answer.
All to often posts are made blaming the people here for the posters own frustration. Sometimes others here will attempt to "cool them down" and sometimes they will "slam them". I think it depends on the moon or something....

Good luck and happy Linuxing h1tman.

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story that goes on forever
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nothingness

bla bla bla you said you was done posting, but i keep seein your name here.

im not angered or nothing, im just pointing something out and seeing if anyone else noticed it. ya the ones taking it to the heart not me.

some of us actually do spend hours (sometimes days) searching for an answer before asking. the ones who ask right away without searching are usually easy enough to spot, and they only make it harder for the rest of us who try to solve our own problems.

that said, it's tough being a newbie, no question about it. sometimes after searching for hours for the answer to 4 or 5 hard problems, someone just wants an easy answer to problem number 6 that is no big deal but is really bugging them. that one answer can give them a boost and let them feel they are making progress so they can go back to the other 5 problems w/out giving up. so i think slack (no pun intended ) needs to be cut both ways. we're all learning, folks! (except acid_kewpie, who already knows everything, it appears )

I'll tell you one thing. I'm along the same lines like acid. I google or search for everything. I think now out of my 9992 posts, I asked like 4 technical questions on topics or problems I could not find anywhere. One was even for a friend as I recall I was installing Slack on a laptop for him.

Anyways, I didn't learn by asking questions though, I learned by reading the documentation. I knew nothing of Linux or Unix when I started and I don't recall they having forums like this setup all over the place to just get a simple answer, someone else to do the work for you.

Also, I come here to answer questions most of the time, I like to help out. I'd have to say 30% to 40% of the questions I sometimes answer I don't know the answer out of my head or at least not fully. The majority of the time I searched it myself to give that person the answer. Probably 90% of the time I'm searching its off of google.com/linux to find that answer.

So don't stereotype *nix users please. Some might just blatently tell you to google.com it, cause most of the time its already out there. Just seems most are lazy and don't know how to search very well. Don't do google search and just browse the first page, if no answer on that first page of results, don't give up and come ask your question. Usually any search on google turns up thousands of hits with many pages to search thru....

Regards.

No, he just knows how to search for his answer... or ask another moderator..