comments bout yoper OS

:King_58: · 09-27-2004, 02:44 AM

Hi guys, I would love to see to your opinion about yoper.....

sether · 09-27-2004, 02:56 AM

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=232018

it sure is fast! sort of....

i would use it if it didn't have weird quirks and if you could actually choose what packages to install.

XavierP · 09-27-2004, 12:43 PM

See also http://www.linuxquestions.org/review...hp?product=288

Since this is in entirely the wrong place, it's been moved.

nuka_t · 09-28-2004, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sether
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=232018

it sure is fast! sort of....

i would use it if it didn't have weird quirks and if you could actually choose what packages to install.

what packages? it barely installs anything other than kde stuff. the point is to let you install what you want after the install, thats why it has all the packagte management stuff built in. it has support for apt, rpm, slackware packages and all the compilers to DIY.

sether · 09-28-2004, 02:20 AM

but what if i don't want kde installed in the first place? i should have at least the option of doing an install with a light wm and then building my system up. also, openoffice and mozilla come with yoper - i don't use mozilla, and the openoffice it came with installed but crashed when it was started - seems there was some sort of problem with it being "integrated" with kde. if openoffice weren't integrated with kde and kde didn't automatically come with it i wouldn't have had such a big problem getting openoffice to work.

nuka_t · 09-28-2004, 03:22 AM

oo dosent come with it, you download it through synaptic. mozilla is there because it's needed by many programs, including prelinking, which is what makes yoper fast.

as for kde, it needs to come with at least one WM, because a noob isnt going to install a wm from the commandline. kde is by far the most popular wm, that is why its the one included. if fluxbox or some other one was more wanted, then it'd have that.

sether · 09-28-2004, 03:31 AM

i see. i guess yoper just isn't for me. btw, i downloaded the iso (v2.1) directly from the yoper site. by default, it comes with an icon on the desktop that says "install openoffice."

*edit*
i hear they're coming out with multiple isos, i.e. yoper for desktops, yoper for servers, etc. i'd be willing to try one out w/o kde.

nuka_t · 09-28-2004, 03:48 AM

that icon is simply a command to download and install ooo AFAIK.

as for no kde, you can always do an "apt-get remove kde" to solve that problem.

wh33t · 10-02-2004, 07:08 PM

So far Yoper has been troubling for me.

I cant seem to get it to load pass the install stage. All I get is a black screen with a flashing cursor on it with out a command prompt.

I think its because its not isntalling the boot loader properlly.

See my post here:
http://www.yoper.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=3925

nuka_t · 10-03-2004, 01:35 AM

i say just wait a few days and install yoper 2.2 which is coming out soon. i dont know why the bootloader thing isnt working. post it here in linux general.

sewer_monkey · 10-04-2004, 10:44 PM

Sounds like the installer needs some work...

reddazz · 10-05-2004, 02:36 AM

when trying to install RPMS via synaptic, I have noticed that some RPMS don't have any descriptions and just say something like "rpm spec file for packagename", so it's difficult to know what a package does if you install it on your system, unless you know before hand.

mightypile · 10-06-2004, 12:00 PM

Yoper is planning to come out with three separate ISOs depending on what you're looking for in an OS. It's your os after all, not Microsoft's, not Yoper's.

There will be a KDE iso and a Gnome ISO and a Base ISO. This should resolve any issues about not wanting somebody else choosing your packages for you. It should also be mentioned that Yoper is designed to appeal to the Windows convert. The goal is to create a simple, clean install (still in progress) that doesn't ask you about every option and every package. That can be customized later for the experts, but Yoper wants to be very accessible to anyone and not intimidate them by asking too many questions in the install.

Yoper is also a flexible linux distro that will allow you, like most, to pull down any package under the sun and install it. You want more software? apt-get it and it's done.

Disclaimer: I believe that I've represented Yoper honestly and accurately, if not, sincere apologies to Andreas and Yoper.

tomByrer · 10-07-2004, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mightypile
It should also be mentioned that Yoper is designed to appeal to the Windows convert. The goal is to create a simple, clean install (still in progress) that doesn't ask you about every option and every package. That can be customized later for the experts, but Yoper wants to be very accessible to anyone and not intimidate them by asking too many questions in the install.

Yoper is also a flexible linux distro that will allow you, like most, to pull down any package under the sun and install it. You want more software? apt-get it and it's done.

Yoper is good for ex-windows people, & good for Linux people who want a fast distro on their i686 system without going through Gentoo's install (though Gentoo would be faster once installed).

Also, though sometimes you can use RPMs from other distros, you can't always. Yoper's binary repository is a good size, but not huge compaired to Debian's. Headers are included for ./configure, make, make install, but one-shot compiling is a mixed bag.