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Old 04-22-2004, 02:20 PM   #1
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The Traps Of Linux...&open Source Software


The Traps Of Linux...&open Source Software
A scandalous book published on-line
Just look at this...

e-balkani.com/book

No comment...
 
Old 04-22-2004, 02:44 PM   #2
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//Moderator note: john20004: you have crossposted a message which is against the LQ Rules. Cross-posting is considered bad netiquette on your part, a waste of resources on LQ's part and a waste of time for LQ members who take the time your question.
Please do not do that again.

BTW, if you don't want to comment, what's the use?
 
Old 04-23-2004, 02:45 AM   #3
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This post has been reopened. Having seen what this book is about I would like to ask that the debate be kept friendly. Should this thread degenerate into flaming it will be closed.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 03:50 AM   #4
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The author really must love typing, it is very wordy.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 06:24 AM   #5
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Oh my god, we've all been misled! Linus Thorvald is non other than the devil in a geek suit!

Quick, reinstall windows, before it's too late!
 
Old 04-23-2004, 06:33 AM   #6
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A question for the mods..........

i dont mean to insult the LQ rules,
But in a situation like this, if i find such a site of book that may interest LQ members, or even answer questions / help. And the website is clearly way too large to fit into a forum thread. What should one do ?

posting a hyper-link seems the only possible sollution ?
 
Old 04-23-2004, 06:53 AM   #7
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Just as I thought. meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 3.0"

Obviously written by a Windows user. Trying to protect his big bucks selling expensive software with bugs that can be fixed for a lot of extra money. I mean to introduce free software and open source as a bad thing. It is just outrageus. Funny though he made a good point that in the end the open source will win any big software company.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 08:14 AM   #8
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Feel free to post a hyperlink, especially if a post would be over long. But post only once. The Rules are quite clear on this:
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Do not post the same discussion in more than one forum. Duplicate discussions can be frustrating for other members. Try and pick the most relevant forum for your post. If you are unsure put it in Linux - General.
(this only applies if the question is a technical one )
As a follow on from that, if you think your thread is in the wrong place, or any thread for that matter, Report the post to a moderator and one of us will move it.

Not forgetting, of course (also from the Rules):
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Your thread may be moved to a more appropriate forum at a moderator's discretion.
There was no problem with the subject of this thread, or the fact that a hyperlink was posted, merely with the fact that it was posted 4 times and only once in the correct forum.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 09:01 AM   #9
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Addressing the main issue - this is a strange book, really. But I guess he has been punished enough if he's done the whole thing in Frontpage 3.0.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 09:35 AM   #10
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Originally posted by OSourceDiplomat
Addressing the main issue - this is a strange book, really. But I guess he has been punished enough if he's done the whole thing in Frontpage 3.0.
lol. Good one . Well, that book is just a reflex of many things in life. If you are a Basket player and you lose the match, you've to blame someone, and who is more appropiate then the other team who won the match. The writer is clearly a loser who thought it was too difficult to edit his /etc/fstab. So, yeah, lets blame Linux instead of assuming his stupidity (this word remember me of Mortal Kombat...lol, ok, focus...). Who does not remember those young kids in America who shot some peoples walking in a car and their parents blamed that act on Grand Theft Auto 3? It's easier to blame a game then assume that you are a stinky parent. It's the very same thing. Life is full of losers as this writer... you fail, you've to blame someone or something... (if you are a loser, indeed)

Indeed, I have not read his hole page. I've seen man pages much smaller than that and at least, at the end of man page, you can do something useful with what you read...

Last edited by Mega Man X; 04-23-2004 at 09:37 AM.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 09:38 AM   #11
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to XavierP..
Ok, didnt realise he had made duplicate posts.

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Addressing the main issue - this is a strange book, really. But I guess he has been punished enough if he's done the whole thing in Frontpage 3.0.
haha.

Anyways.. Even if the guy is partially correct, and open source kills MS and other software vendors... so what !

yeah, it will destroy jobs....

but thats like car manufacturers attacking hikers because they are viewing the beautifull countryside for free.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 09:57 AM   #12
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What is this guy smoking?

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My personal experience is related to one of the electronic newspapers I publish. Some time ago my friends (web-designers) offered to improve the design and the structure of the site free of charge, just in return for certain advertisements and as an act of respect to the content of the media, which they liked. I agreed, of course, and the work began. The new site was created using Open source under PHP. It was based on an existing site project, downloaded from the phpnuke.org site.
What was established during the work?
To start with, the creation of the new design was not free at all. I myself did not pay anything because of the “friendship”, however I realized how much effort (my efforts too) were involved in making the raw product a finished item and realized how expensive this service would be if I had to order it.
Second, the finished product became nobody’s property. After so many efforts to create it, any arbitrary user can use it for free. That is, if I have a rival in the newspaper publishing business, he may come and demand the code of the site. No matter what I have done, what know-how has been contributed, and what business-model has been embedded – anyone can come and take on the strength of GPL.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 10:00 AM   #13
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Bunnies... it has to be bunnies
 
Old 04-23-2004, 10:11 AM   #14
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Of course it will destroy jobs. But as the author said. They end up paying for help. So that does not sound like destroying jobs to me, it sounds to me like new jobs rising. The only problem he has with it is, it's his job that's dieing. It is the era of more experienced computer freaks. If a person was using Windows for his whole life of course he feels threatened by new upcoming gurus. But that's not wrong. It is better for society, not worse. It's like car manufacturers, that are holding back the new economic alternative cars, because they can still make money with oil, no matter if it kills the planet. Like MS makes more and more stupid computer users. Why? So he can milk them some more of their money. That is what's wrong with this world. But no, MS is good for milking people, and free source is bad, because it takes jobs, freedom and god knows what else. I know I shouldn't just turn against MS, and I'm not. I'm against shitty statements MS has given about:

"Pirated software has more bugs and security risks, than the original software..."

How can this be, if it is the same software. They are actually admitting to their software having security risks and bugs.

Ok, that's enough. The point I am trying to make is. What's different in paying for help from paying for software?
 
Old 04-23-2004, 12:00 PM   #15
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I don't think it will so much as CREATE jobs, but just move them to a different market. Programmers will just begin in the open source community and their will be an influx to tech support (something that needs to be flooded anyways to get rid of bad people).

As for the car manufactures liking gas guzzling cars thats not true. They manufacture hybrid cars and people who by them even get benefits (tax deductions for using them) but no one wants them because they just aren't cool enough (how many people drive around in SUV's when they don't need them?). Being a corporation they just make what the people want, but still produce and research the alternatives, Ford and another company just announced that they back a plan to raise gas prices $.50 to make people want more efficient cars.

Kinda went on a tangent there didn't I?
 
  


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